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Don Klipstein

In , zzzzz wrote:
On 29 Apr 2010 01:02:47 +0 UTC, (Don Klipstein) wrote:

In , zzzz wrote:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 22:44:04 +0000 (UTC), (Don Klipstein)
wrote:

In , zzzzzzzzzz
wrote:

SNIP to here

...and you were going to save $.05 per day.

I figure more like 30 cents per day for my apartment. In most houses,
the savings are more.

Your numbers before were $.35 vs. $.30.

I re-estimated hours per week for each lamp since I did not commit that
or my previous savings estimate figure to memory.

Even at $.30/day, that's half the cost of an unreadable newspaper;
trivial. At that "cost" there is no reason to put up with *ugly*.

SNIP from here

Except I don't find mine ugly at all.

You like looking at harsh, twisty, lights. What can I say?

For one thing, CFLs come in a
variety of color temperatures. And various brands, wattage ranges,
general types, and tubing diameters have trends of slightly more purplish
or more greenish color. Because of this, I can get the color that I want.

...and we're supposed to buy them all and throw away the ones we don't like?

Start with ones in resealable containers and purchased from places with
a good return policy. Any unreturnable ones of nonoptimum color can go
where color matters less.

Or, try seeing what brands, models, and wattages are already being used
successfully somewhere else.

The least greenish (most purplish) one that I can at this moment that is
good are Sylvania's 3000K models. Towards the other extreme, among decent
ones I have found Philips 2700K spirals of lower wattages to be less-
purplish, more-greenish.
Among 3500K spirals, I have found Sylvania to be a bit on the purplish
side but acceptable. My favorite was Westinghouse "medium white", but
that appears to me not easy to find and did not last as long in bathroom
duty as other brands. N:Vision appeared to me to have an in-between shade
of 3500K, slightly purplish but less so than Sylvania. (Home Depot
recently replaced N:Vision with another brand that may be similar.)

BTW, I've never seen one I like the light from. I do have several T10s (?)
that I use for shop light. Different application, though.

And the spiral shape does not appear ugly to me.

It certainly does in my fixtures. They're intended for unfrosted bulbs.
Twisties look like hell.

Anyway, the shape of a spiral CFL is not visible in many fixtures.

It would be in every one of mine, other than the cans, where they aren't
useable, anyway.

Where the bare spiral tubing is visible, it is usually uncomfortably
bright to spend much time looking at anyway.

60W incandescents don't have that problem.

They look rather bright to me to look at for long, though I find 40 watt
soft whites easy to look at.

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- Don Klipstein )