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Default Detectron Geiger Counter

In article , "N_Cook" wrote:
Chris F. wrote in message
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Yes it uses some kind of step-up circuit, and the output to the GM tube is
about 300-400 volts.

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Chris F. wrote in message
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I recently bought an old Detectron model DG-7 geiger counter. This is
from
the early 50's and has three 1U5 tubes inside. Power requirements are

90
volts for the B+, two "D" cells for the tube filaments, and a 4.5 volt
bias
supply.
I went over the unit, replacing a selenium rectifier and testing the
tubes. The unit powers up, but generates a steady stream of pulses on
it's
own, even with the probe detached. The frequency of the oscillation
varies
with the range selector knob. The probe is working - when brought near

a
source (a bunch of vaseline marbles) it will produce extra clicks in
addition to the stray ones generated by the unit.
I've checked all the other components - resistors, capacitors, etc.

The
only thing I couldn't check is a very small tube, which looks like a
cold-cathode rectifier of some kind. I've also tried varying the B+ and
bias
voltages. And I can't find a schematic, which makes matters worse.
I'm not sure what to do next. Any ideas?




90V seems low for a GM, is there a step up circuit to 300V or so ?





I use an ex military GM tube with ditched 1960s electronics (some strange
battery required although transistor) and my own inverter to sweep the
workshop every now and then . I forget what voltage drives it but I remember
that if it was set too high it would self discharge internally causing
regular clicks .
Now there is no thorium loaded gas mantles around these days , nor radium
dials , what is commonly around to give an above background check that they
are working ?



If one has elevated radon levels, there is a rise near your furnace air filter,
if its electrostatic material. Still, you have to integrate the meter to see
average increases. I still have an old bedside clock around, as well
as my Pentax lens, 50mm vintage early 70's. You can buy Uranium stuff.
On one meter I use there is a calibration spot on the side. I don't know how many smoke detectors
have it, but it seems hard to measure through the case.

greg