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On Apr 22, 5:56*am, Evan wrote:
On Apr 22, 6:52*am, ransley wrote:



What is better then Medico. Picking one if possible isnt as I see it
knowledge to many, and not in *you average amature thiefs timeframe or
ability. They want quick entry , nit working on door for 5-15 minutes,
at that point the would just kick it in instead


Bi-Lock or Abloy are good quality locks which are much more
difficult to pick... *They are also much more difficult to obtain
copies of your keys and if you lose your credential issued at
the time you purchase the lock, you MUST have the lock
rekeyed to a new combination and have new keys and a new
credential issued... *NO EXCEPTIONS...

Where are you located ? *Locksmiths in the rural areas don't
either install or encounter Medeco locks very often so therefore
they are much less familiar with them and have never given
picking them serious thought, yet the locksmiths in cities
and suburbs know them thoroughly and are very adept at
picking them, since picking them takes less time and costs
the customer less money than destructive removal (drilling)...

As for amateur thieves, such thieves might use a bump key
but that is highly doubtful... *Much more common to see a
sledgehammer or big pry bar used instead... *Then you would
see the glass/window breakage being the next most common
method of gaining entry...

If you think that someone spending 5 to 15 minutes to gain
entry to a building with the intent to burglarize it, then you
don't have much imagination or common sense... *It all
depends on what is inside and how much it would be worth
to steal... *If you think that 15 minutes is too much time
to spend picking a lock to enter without leaving obvious
damage, then you would be shocked that some specialist
burglars spend more than an hour methodically breaching
very expensive safes... *It all comes down to whether the
reward (rich stuff kept in the house or the safe) is greater
than the risk (getting caught)... *Remember most burglars
are caught when they are attempting to liquidate the stolen
property for cash, not while they are in the middle of the
actual breaking and entering or stealing...

~~ Evan


Medeco is, by far, the most popular high-sec lock available in the
US. You might end up being stuck with them, but Mul-T-Lock is fairly
popular as well (though a bit easier to pick..except the brand-new
MT5). As Evan said, Bilock and Abloy are very good as well (Abloy
Protec especially). Any of these is going to be just fine for
commercial or residential use. Burglars generally aren't lockpickers,
but like he said; its about risk analysis. And the few that are; even
fewer of them are on this level. For the most part, the only folks
opening these things are the obsessed hobbyists like me, government
agencies, and a handful of locksmiths (most of which fall into the
other two categories as well). In most cases, covert/surreptitious
entry is one of the last things folks should be worried about in
regard to physical security. Getting a locksmith to properly install
any of the above locks puts you way beyond most targets in terms of
picking resistance.