On Apr 7, 8:19*pm, "Existential Angst"
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On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:05:07 -0400, "Existential Angst"
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On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 09:49:45 -0700 (PDT), JIMMIE
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On Apr 7, 12:30 pm, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Apr 2010 08:51:55 -0700 (PDT), keith
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On Apr 7, 10:33 am, wrote:

Photo-voltaic's don't have to be a complete solution in order to be
a
worthwhile proposition. What's the ROI on your car? Is it at least
the
most cost efficient car you could possibly own? Is it as cheap as
taking mass transit? If not, then I guess using a car for
transportation isn't economically feasible.

The ROI on my car is quite good, actually (something like 2,500%). It
allows me to go to work every day.

You just failed basic economics - Very badly.

Photovoltaics suck for the average home. On the other hand solar
powered water heater and direct heating of your home with solar energy
can be very efficient. One study on using photo cells to power a home
failed miserably. Trees had to be cut away so light could get to the
solar panels. This increased HVAC usage by more than the solar panels
could provide. Im not sure which university performed this test but it
was in Fl. Shouldn't be hard to find if you want to look it up.

Jimmie

I think you just made that up.

Why, because YOU didn't think of it? *You are SUCH an asshole!
Even at 70 psi, you *should* be able to power that bicycle air horn with
yer
ass....

"TRUE" or not, jimmie's post raises a very inneresting point about
trees/shade, etc.

Did you google thoroughly to assure yourself that jimmie's assertions were
NOT true?
Or is jerking yourself off *and* typing with the other hand too slow?

PV's *can* be used to effectively power a home, but it's not trivial, and
it's big total $$, not just for the PV's, but for the surrounding
infrastructure -- batteries, inverters, grid tie-ins, wiring, roof
installation, you name it.
Ditto windmills.

Also, ito the green factor, altho PV's would appear to be idyllic, it's
not
well known that the manufacture of virtually all solid state stuff is one
of
the most chemically insidious processes in manufacturing, definitely
non-green.

Which is why all this stuff is made overseas, where the rivers literally
bubble from pollutants.

Man, are you ever stupid. If you don't believe me, go look it up or
google it.

I DO believe it.
YOU are the one asserting that he made it up.
Prove it. *Google your salty ass off, provide cites to the contrary.
Asshole.



Jimwit doesn't even remember for sure what he thought he saw
somewhere, yet he states it as if it is some sort of fact. As far as
I'm concerned, he made it up, until he comes up with some evidence
that he didn't.

Typical SaltyAss.
Nevermind that it was a very good point.
Kudos to Jimmie if he DID make it up.... *it's more creative insight than
YOU will ever generate in your useless usenet career.
Figger out climb vs. conventional cutting yet?? *Which you denied existed,
cuz poor ignerint baby didn't have effing citations spoon fed to him.....
waaaa-waaaaa
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EA



Been 3 or 4 years since I saw the thing. I dont really give a rat's
ass if anyone believes me or not. I know none of these posers that
keep saying how great photo voltaic systems are will ever install a
system themselves. I've done enough research to know that its not as
easy to do as the internet ads make it sound. They dont consider that
the first and second largest users of energy in the home is HVAC and
hot water. These can be more efficiently supplemented via solar by
taking a more direct approach leaving out the solar to electrical
conversion all together. I can do better than photocells just by
adding a sun room on the south side of my house to heat in the
winter.

Jimmie