busbus wrote:


That's is exactly the point: these people who were supposed to use the
system to get back on their feet have instead decided to live off of
it for literally generations. There is no incentive to get off.


Correct. The last sentence is the most accurate.

True, they know no better. And maybe THAT is the real problem. We
keep on giving these people fish whenever they are hungry and never
teach them how to fish nor do we make an environment in which they
even WANT to fish. They have become a group of circus seals who bark
and get a fish tossed their way. Not enough to live off of, so they
bark some more, but enough that they don't have any reason to go out
and fend for themselves.

Bull. They do know better. You can't exist in the US today without being
exposed to a better way. The real issue is that there is a class of people
who figure out how to do as little as possible, and to milk systems that
will accomodate their laziness. That we perpetuate such systems is a big
part of the problem. It is politcally incorrect to suggest, let alone
legislate incentive to move off of programs.


There is a lot of bashing going on in here and, quite frankly, all
around the country. It is really disheartening. People who disagree
with what is happening politically are being slammed, from Obama
himself on down the line. We are all called extremists because we
have the audacity to think differently and to speak up. We are
labeled as racists because we disagree with a President who happens to
have darker skin than any past President. Heck, we have even been
labeled as terrorists because we dare to push back and speak up. I
thought that was why Freedom Of Speech was in the very first section
of The Bill Of Rights? I guess not....

The tactics of those who babble about choice, beliefs, tolerance and all
that crap, but have none of the same for thoughts that are contrary to their
own.


I have suggested it befo Hire a bunch of Wal-Mart and/or/ Home
Depot and/or Lowes and/or any number of people who have run businesses
and have them come in to clean house. I am 100% sure they will find
tremendous inefficiencies in every government run program. And I am
also sure that they can define processes and procedures that will
drastically reduce the waste and inefficiencies and the nest result
will be a huge amount of money that can actually be given back to the
citizens of this country. That way, the programs that are already in
place will do what they were intended to do, the liberals get what
they want, and everybody will get a little bit of money back into
their pockets.

Be careful what you wish for. Not all of those are as efficiency minded as
you may believe. Take Home Depot for example. They are so focused on
customer satisfaction right now that they will and are, giving away the ship
to gain those customer satisfaction scores. Sure - there is a profit to be
gained in that, but no efficiency expert would recommend the imbalance
they're pursuing. When imbalanced ideals become part of the strategy,
private enterprise does not look a lot different than government practices.
Lowes has done a marvelous job of deferring costs - in typical governement
ways, so they're not much better than the government. At least to Home
Depot's credit, they operate on cash. They do not have inventory lines of
credit, etc. Maybe there is a lesson that can be learned there...

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-Mike-