On Mar 21, 11:32*am, Han wrote:
Robatoy wrote :

On Mar 21, 12:52*am, Mark & Juanita wrote:
[snipped the usual]

. *You are free to feel that way, but if
you do, go find a country that is governed that way and live there,
don't try to force that enslavement on the rest of us.

How about a country with a Patriot Act?

I feel fine living in this country with a sort of democratic representative *
republic. *(See other posts of mine referencing Radburn). *What I object to
is the rabid reelection fever and crazed Pavlovian reactions to lobbyists..

And that all has nothing to do with the Patriot Act, Robatoy. *I despise
some of the provisions there. *Remember, in Holland you now have to carry
ID all the time since the EU reguulation of that aspect became effective,
and in the US you better have ID with you too. *What about Kanuckistan,
Robatoy?


I raised the Patriot Act as an obvious example of a republican double
standard when they describe health reform as a loss of freedom. From
where I am sitting, either party is nothing but a collective of power
hungry scumbags driven by the lobbyists/special interest groups. And
no matter who the president is, he's influenced by way too many
rasputins like Dick Cheney or Rahm Emanuel. That Emanuel is one shady
sunnuvabitch.

As far as ID being obligatory up here in the tundra? Just when you're
operating a motor vehicle.

And when it comes to The Netherlands, I wouldn't live there for 20
million Euros or on a bet. Those people are crazeeeee. G

But, really... when has it been any different in history? A few with
power control the freedoms of the serfs JUST enough to let them gather/
earn so that they can be taxed/plundered. Same-ol'-same-old. And when
the powers at the helm want to get bolder in their quest for rape/
pillage/taxes, they also know they need to be careful that there
aren't too many guns around as the serfs DO get ****ed off.
And what was the reaction of the Kanuckistanis when the government
announced a gun registry/control program? Well, the sheeple went along
just fine... but many said: "fuuuck, I better get meself a heater or
two and hide them." A few other saw yet another opportunity to take
advantage of a porous border with the US and started smuggling guns
and selling them. End result? More murders than before gun control.
(Yes, I know, other factors play into this as well.)