On Mar 19, 7:36*am, wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:15:05 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:
On Mar 19, 3:43*am, mm wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 06:25:29 -0400, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:24:06 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:
On Mar 18, 5:25*pm, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:20:08 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:
On Mar 18, 7:41*am, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:36:05 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:
Really OT but on subject of press 'buying into stories'. *Balloon Boy
is a fine example. *They bought the story of the kid being in there
and that went on for hours and hours. *Not once, not nobody, even
mentioned that had the kid been in there he was dead. *You cannot
breath a helium atmosphere and live.
I don't recall that anyone ever reported that he was inside the helium
filled envelope. There was a small "box" on the underside.
Only one of the kids at the beginning, daddy and mommy a couple
times. *The original 911 call was 'kid in the baloon'
No, there was no 'box' attached. *There was one unconfirmed report
that someone had "seen" one but Daddy never confirmed nor denied that
there was one. *There was also the report that someone had seen the
kid fall out of the thing. *Also uncofirmed and proven false.
At the end, when they found the baloon, therewas no "box" attached.
Harry K
The balloon, complete with box was shown repeatedly on television. It
was never alleged by anybody that the kid was in the envelope. He had
supposedly been yelled at previously for playing inside the box under
the balloon.
Oh, look!
http://images.smh.com.au/2009/10/16/...boy-presser-42...
...and here's a picture of the balloon as it landed, with the box
still attached to the bottom:
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Better look again. *That is not a "box", it is part of the balloon..
News reports all day were full of "in" the baloon and you must have
missed the shots of the cops frantically slashing at it looking for
the kid.
The "box" report was of someone sayting the saw a 'box' or 'car'
_suspended_ from the baloon.
Harry K
It is a box, and if you look around I'm pretty sure you can find
photos or video showing it in detail with the door open and closed. It
was intended for cameras and weather instruments, not human
passengers. It was big enough for a small kid to get inside.
Right. That's why the thing looked like a mushroom. *The stem was the
box. * There's not a lot of point to building a balloon that won't
carry a payload. *If that's all you want, you can buy one fully made
at the supermarket.
The cops slashed the balloon because the wind was catching it and they
wanted to make sure it stayed right where it was.
Oh, yeah. *That was why. * The balloon wasn't empty, it still had
helium, almost enough to fly since until a littel while earlier it was
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Try again. *STandard instrumentation on such baloons is suspended
_below_ it, not _in_ it.
I listened to the entire thing and the 'box discussion was proven
invalid. IIANM it was even mentioned in summaries at the end of the
'action"
It is amazing how people can get two different 'facts' from the same
show, one wrong, one right and I am on the right side.
Even the construction of your 'box' shows it wasn't. *Clearly covered
with the same stuff as the baloon and thus too flimsy to hold
_anything_ heavier than a few pounds and that would ahve to be spread
out.
Harry K
Oh, damn! Looks like you are COMPLETELY WRONG!
http://fwnextweb1.fortwayne.com/ns/e...ent/uploads/20...
The box was described after the fact as being made of very lightweight
panels taped together that would not have been strong enough to hold
the boy while airborne. It was in fact, intended to carry instruments
that did not weigh very much.
No one knew any of this, or even the size and carrying capacity of the
balloon itself until after the fact. Pretty hard to judge the size of
it when it was a tiny dot in the sky with nothing next to it for
comparison. All they had to go on was what was reported BY THE FAMILY,
who said they thought the booy was in the balloon and had somehow
launched himself. That is the sum total of what was known until much
later.
When the balloon first landed and the boy was not in the box, it was
feared that he had fallen out.
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Here, I did your work for you:
"Authorities began to fear the worst after reports surfaced that a box
possibly carrying Falcon may have fallen off the balloon.
A Weld County Sheriff's deputy had said he saw an object fall off the
balloon somewhere over Platteville, Colorado, which is in the search
area. There was no box attached when the balloon landed at 1:35 p.m"
Source
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/10/15/col...oon/index.html
As I pointed out before. The report of a box attached was
unconfirmed, daddy did not say yea or nay and there was no box when it
landed.
As for them slashing at it to deflate it - try again. It was already
on the ground and wasn't going anywhere. It was a wild attack trying
to find the kid INSIDE the baloon.
I watched the whole thing almost from the beginning and the report of
the kid perhaps being in a 'box' was already discounted long before
the thing landed.
The baloon was constructed to resemble a flying saucer and was a
pretty good immitation of one in an early Sci Fi film.
Harry K