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On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 06:42:25 -0600, Jim Yanik
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:02:18 -0600, Jim Yanik
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On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 14:47:04 -0500, Kurt Ullman
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All my econ classes indicated that paying good
money for something meant it had a use for that person.

If you really took Econ 101, and I doubt it, you would
understand that he, and
the person who had the tobacco, are the only people who
mattered.


Which of course is not what you were arguing.

Of course it is. Just because you refuse to understand...

The response was to the immorality of tobacco.

Tobacco *CANNOT* be immoral, any more than your car is immoral.
They are inanimate objects.

the production and USE of tobacco is immoral.

IT is not immoral, as you claimed it was. There is a *big*
difference.

To you perhaps it is immoral. It obviously isn't against society's
morays.

It's poison,and not just for the users.

Lots of things are dangerous. Unless you propose to ban them all,
you're nothing better than the leftists you hate so much.

Another false presumption;
that if one bans anything,then they must ban everything.

First they came for the Jews...

Nonsense.
The JEWS are a People and a religion(and harm no one),while smoking is a
nasty,bad behavior(harming many).
there's a big difference.
A smoker can live without smoking.Live better,actually.

It affects everybody.
(whether they recognize it or not...)

Bull****. No more than *many* other things that I'm sure you find
perfectly acceptable. The *fact* is that you're no better than
those on the left you hate.

It even affects wildlife.

Hogwash.

Ah,denial.(just -more- denial,actually)

Bull****.

No,truth.

You suggested that just because "good money"
(whatever that is)

i.e. no fraud involved; everyone is playing above-board here...

Ah,ANYTHING goes,if it's "aboveboard".... = anarchy.

Illegal "above board"

then in your view,anything that is "legal" is thus not immoral.
screwy. (that would make YOU "pro-choice" and pro-GLBT)

Morality is personal. SOme morality, when it's universal is codified.
You propose that smoking is universally immoral, which is asinine.

Sure it is;
it poisons,pollutes,starts fires,has no redeeming value.
It's disgusting behavior,socially unacceptable.
It not only negatively affects the smoker,but those around them.


Get out of the leftists gutter.

was spent that tobacco by definition was a good
thing.

Both people in the transaction both benefited. It was good for
them, yes.

Not really. they suffer poor health,higher medical costs,live
shorter lifetimes. but it's also bad for -everyone- else.
Thus,society has reasonable cause to regulate or prohibit it.

Ah, so you *DO* support banning everything you deem to be
"dangerous".
You *are* a statist.


Ooh,again,"statist,statist",I'm SO hurt.....

I can't help it if you *are* what you hate. That's the plain truth.


Ooh,now I'm a "hater".....sounds like the homos argument...

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