building jeep frame
On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:31:16 -0800, Jim Stewart
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John D. wrote:
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 17:52:39 -0500, "Ed Huntress"
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote in
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Why not aluminum? I have an aluminum boat trailer. Works very well.
3400# boat. The Covette has an aluminum frame as well as the Cadillac
bodied Vette. Look at a Corvette and see what they use. Airplanes
have aluminum frames. And as long as you design well, the flex should
not be a problem.
Boat trailers are rarely twisted the way that off-road vehicles routinely
are.
The same thing applies to Corvettes.
After all, when was the last time that you went rock-crawling with your
'Vette? Grin
How about mud-bogging or bouncing around on deeply-rutted roads?
Jeeps are expected to do all of these and more without any ill effects.
(Getting dirty/muddy is, for a Jeep, a good thing!)
Hell, I raced a vette, steel chassis, and it got to rock clrawing a couple
times. :) And boat trailers are regularly towed over uneven ground.
With three points taking out the loads -- hitch and suspension supports,
which generally are paired but close -- there is no significant torsional
load on a boat trailer. It's all simple bending. You can deal with that, but
if you towed your boat 100% of the time, I think you'd develop fatigue
problems in aluminum.
The aluminum Corvette chassis are semi-space-frame with some shear panels.
The subframes resolve their loads in three dimensions. There isn't much
flexing there.
The same applies to aircraft, which often are near-monocoque. If they flex,
you die.
Error.. ever see the wings on a B-52? When they taxi out for take-off
both outrigger wheels are on the ground; when they come back one
outrigger will be ten feet in the air. But not only the wings, a B-52
on the ground has large wrinkles on each side of the fuselage, forward
of the wings; flying the fuselage is smooth.
For what it's worth, I was told that the fuselage
skin on a B-52 was unwrinkled until they started
flying them at 100ft off the ground at 500mph or
something...
The B-52 H's that I worked on at Barksdale AFB certainly all had
wrinkles and frankly I doubt very much that the average B-52 was ever
flown at 500 MPH a hundred feet off the ground as it was deployed by
SAC, except for the "iron bomb" aircraft in Vietnam, as a high
altitude nuclear weapon delivery system.
In addition the fuel consumption would be astronomical under those
conditions as during a normal nuclear loaded mission first refueling
was very shortly after take-off, essentially as soon as the aircraft
reached cruising altitude, as so much fuel was burned getting off the
ground and climbing to altitude that the un-refueled range would be
(for a B-52) extremely limited.
John D.
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)
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