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dpb

wrote:
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:34:33 -0800 (PST), Harry K
wrote:
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No, the deaths and accidents are the fault of stupid drivers. ...

Good grief!

Other than possibly being in very close quarters at initiation of the
event, one has to wonder what actually did happen other than panic and
inappropriate or incorrect response. If one were in a parking space and
it surged, it would be highly likely to hit something directly in
front/rear before had time to react. Similarly in close traffic. But
on open road as many seem to have been, one wonders why the disasters,
indeed.

But since there are no black boxes and personal recounts are notoriously
inaccurate (both for lack of actual recollection and knowledge as well
as for face-saving reasons) there's really no way to know what any
individual did in any given circumstance. And, of course, if there's
not a record of failure to respond to an input as well as the response,
even a black box wouldn't be the unequivocal answer, either.

And, unfortunately, there's no equivalent of air-crash safety post event
forensic investigation so afaik there's been no exhaustive study of any
of the events beyond simply police/highway patrol routine accident
reports. What, if anything, Toyota has done from any of the reports is
not publicly available altho one presumes at least something.

The CA incident is indeed the most mind-boggling of all I've heard and
doesn't say much for CHIPS training if actually was anything other than
a desk-bound supervisor or somesuch individual behind the wheel.

Panic and untrained/unskilled drivers certainly have a large component
to play in end results methinks as well even though the initiating event
is hardware/software related it appears...

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