Must Be Bush's Fault wrote:
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:57:03 -0600, bud--
wrote:

HeyBub wrote:
dgk wrote:
That's why it's now called Climate Change instead of Gloal Warming.
Too many stupid people think that Global Warming means that it will
always be warmer and never get cold or snow again. "Oh wow, it's cold,
so much for global warming!"

Most of us learned that heat is energy and that more energy in the
atmosphere means more extreme events. And yes, over all, higher
average temperatures. Maybe not where you are right now. Where I am
right now we're getting another big snow storm.
More heat equals greater extremes? By what law of nature, thermodynamics,
God, man, or physics can that possibly be?

If I add heat to a pan of water I can get ice?

Global warming = more severe winters is a scientific fiction.

About every piece I have seen on "global warming" that had any depth said:
- temperatures are rising on *average* taken *world wide*
- the resulting climate change at any *point* is unpredictable - maybe
hotter, maybe colder, maybe productive farm areas will loose their rain,
maybe.... Weather patterns will change in unpredictable ways.
- on average the energy in the atmosphere will increase - including
moisture which is a form of energy. That can cause more severe storms,
thunderstorms, tornadoes, hurricanes, ... - in short, more extreme weather.

A very large snow storm is consistent with "climate change" - there is
more heat in the atmosphere in the form of moisture. What little I have
seen on this storm is it is like lake effect snow with the lake being
the ocean.

Also consistent with "climate change":
- massive rainstorms and mudslides in California
- drought in the south
- light to moderate rain over at least 8 hours around Christmas in
Minnesota, also another day since.

No scientist would say any of the above is from "climate change". To do
so would confuse "weather" with "climate". Denying "climate change"
based on a snow storm shows a similar lack of understanding of science.


Fact is that there's no proof that warming is anthropogenic,

There is no "proof" for much widely accepted science, like plate tectonics.

There is wide consensus by experts in many appropriate fields that
anthropogenic global warming is a fact and is a serious risk to the world.

or that
man can reverse it,

The goal is to slow and then stop it.

or that it is necessarily catastrophic.

The Greenland ice sheet is not only melting, it is melting much faster
than predicted. The rise in ocean level from a melting Greenland ice
sheet alone would be catastrophic.

Fact is that the individuals and organizations who are pushing the
concept are those in favor of redistribution of first-world wealth.

Ah yes, the conspiracy, including many national academies of science.

Not to worry - it is effectively countered by the Bilderberg Group with
the help of the Illuminati and the Elders of Zion.


I really don't find arguments on science that is backed by a wide
consensus of scientists interesting. The arguments often involve
alternate realities.

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bud--