dennis@home wrote:


"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message
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dennis@home wrote:


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Where's Tony Martin when you need
him?


Hopefully somewhere he can't get an illegal firearm.
There are enough criminals with illegal firearms without letting a
con have one.

ISTR one of the resons he was convicted was that he used a shotgun
without a licence.

It was worse than that.. he used a weapon that you can't get a
license for.
And he obtained it with the intention to kill.

That is a libellous statement Dennis.

You cannot know his intentions.

Oh, you think he obtained a pump action shotgun to hunt rabbits, illegally.

unlikely. poor weapon for rabbits.

Geese or wildfowl, is another matter entirely. having several in the
magazine can really make a difference when a skein of geese come over.


The legal facts are that he was in possession of a pump action
shotgun, for which he had no license, and which is not in fact
licensable in this country as far as I know.and he used it to kill and
wound two trespassers.

Whether or not he was morally justified, is an open question.

The hell it is.
Murder is never morally justified, it wouldn't be murder if it were
justified.


In which case T Bliar is a crim. Since he most definitely ordered the
killings of many many people by going to war..

The state has legalised deliberate premeditated killing in many areas an
times.

Warfare.
Execution

to name but two.


Martin was jailed for life for the murder of Fred Barras, with 10
years to run concurrently for the wounding offence and a further 12
months for *possession* of an illegal firearm.

He was NOT convicted of the charge of 'possessing a Winchester
pump-action shotgun with intent to endanger life'

he was NEVER charged with 'intent to kill'

I hope you have good lawyers.

You are stupid.


No, precise. Which is what your lawyers will need to be to advise you.