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Red Green

Higgs Boson wrote in
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On Jan 22, 8:12*pm, Red Green wrote:
Higgs Boson wrote
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On Jan 21, 3:29*pm, mcp6453 wrote:
The floor covering in our kitchen is shot. My wife is not crazy
about cer
amic
tile, plus, the subfloor would have to be removed to make room for
the he
ight of
the ceramic tile.

What are modern alternatives to tile? Linoleum? Recommendations?

I am following this thread with great interest. *My kitchen sheet
vinyl is
tired, big-time. *Have been looking at alternatives (price *is big
consideration).
QUESTION: *When this vinyl was put down, somewhere in the late
Pleistocene, the floor layer guy *that it would be "impossible" *--
meaning, I guess, very difficult -- to remove it..

Can this be true? *If so, is it possible to put down a new sheet
viny
l
floorcovering OVER the old one?

TIA

Yes you can put vinyl over vinyl but it must be done right.

Option - Put down "underlayment" which is not luan and is more
expensive. Screw and construction adhesive it down. Screw heads must
be countersunk. Screwing pattern is important, especially at seams
and wall edges. All seams and screw heads must be skim coated.

Option - Same as above only with luan.

Option - Same as above two only using ring shank nails.

Option - Scrub wash and strip of ALL dirt and wax. Cut out any loose,
bubbling, peeling vinyl. What remains must be securely in tact. Skim
coat (not floor leveler) to fill old pattern and bring any areas
where insecure vinyl was removed up to level. Dried skimcoat can be
sanded to remove imperfections.

Which option I would use depends on the floor condition. I've done
all of the above except using ring shank nails. Screws are the sure
thing. Depending on length, ring shank nails can be tricky if you are
hand nailing.

Thanks for detailed procedure in case I decide to go that way.

(NOTE: Original installer did put down a plywood subfloor; sorry, I
did not think
to ask at that distant time whether it was luan or ?)

I do not know whether it's true what installer said about my
existing
vinyl being so hard to remove. If I decided to lift out a section to
see
whether , in fact, it is so difficult to remove, how would I proceed?
Would I heat the vinyl with ? to soften it? Or?

TIA for any suggestions.

It's glued down. Time consuming to remove. What comes off will be in
small pieces. Then there is glue and irregularities left on floor. To
remove & smooth, that would be a time consuming task. What is left is not
a good surface for new adhesion. I would avoid this approach at all
cost...personally. My guess is it's the most work resulting in the
crappiest result.

The best surface is a new one. A new surface would overall require the
least amout of work and mess.