"Winston_Smith" wrote in message
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Hawke wrote:

There is no doubt that the tone around here is not very civil these
days. So what is causing it? I think it has to do with the Democrats
being in power and most of the guys in here are strongly right wing in
their politics. The fact that they lost the last election and their side
is now pretty much powerless has them very ****ed off. They don't get to
call the shots anymore and to make things worse Obama is doing things
exactly the opposite of how they would do them.

More troops for all the wars.

But...but...the wingers were *for* the wars!

Guantanamo still open.

Wingers LOVE Guantanamo, and want to keep it open!

More raids on the treasury to pay off the banksters.

NO! The banksters raided the Treasury under the last president. They haven't
gotten more than the initial $700 billion since. (In fact, I saw the
estimate today that the cost to us was actually $117 billion, of which Obama
is trying to recover $90 billion).

Increase the debt limit some more.

That's the price of a stimulus. If you aren't going to run a stimulus
deficit in a downturn -- all presidents have since the 1930s, including
Reagan -- what in the hell is your magic solution to a declining economy and
rising unemployment? Cut taxes? ggg

Ignore open borders.

Hell, we've ignored them under five or six presidents. If a Republican won't
do it, why do you expect a Democrat to do it?

Exclude the other party from deliberations.

Oh, that's supposed to be something new?


Yeah, right, big change. George Walker 0bama is in his third term.

He didn't start the polarization. And he isn't going to let the Republicans
exploit his efforts so they can push a minority agenda. No one in his right
mind would do so.


My prediction is that
they will keep it up until another right winger is elected president.

Is it fair to say another left winger has been elected president?

No, it's a foolish thing to say.


Where is the difference?

An effort to reform health care; to bring Guantanamo prisoners into the US
prison system; and to regulate non-bank-banks and to re-regulate commercial
bank/investment bank combinations.

And what have the Republicans done? Resisted every step of the way, with the
help of a few conservative Democrats.

This Congress sucks worse than most, and the Democrats in Congress suck
plenty. But the irrational, ideological and political resistance to some
needed changes goes beyond stupidity. It's reprehensible politicization of
the country's well-being. The stupidity of it is beyond belief.

--
Ed Huntress