On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:23:09 -0600, "Ouroboros Rex"
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flipper wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:05:13 -0600, "Ouroboros Rex"
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flipper wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 15:27:09 -0600, "Ouroboros Rex"
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flipper wrote:
On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 09:47:00 -0600, "Ouroboros Rex"
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flipper wrote:
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:03:21 -0600, "Ouroboros Rex"
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Oppie wrote:
"Jim Thompson"
/Snicker wrote
in message ...
Important Health Care Announcement...

Mayo Clinic (Glendale, AZ) announced today that they will no
longer accept future Medicare patients, etc...

http://industry.bnet.com/healthcare/...care-payments/

...Jim Thompson

Was listening to the radio today. I think that it was the
substitute for Rush Limbaugh...
They mentioned the Amish communities that put aside a cash
reserve for health care. When someone needs medical care (at a
hospital), they negotiate a cash price rate. This rate is
substantially lower than the normal insurance rate.

What does this say about another layer of middlemen and
bureaucrats that would only further raise the costs of care
when government gets involved?

That it can negotiate for lower costs,

Government does not 'negotiate'. It legislates, mandates, and
dictates.

Must be why it had to be specifically prohibited by law. lol

Liberals love to mangle the language and that is a good example
Medicare does not 'negotiate' ANY thing.

Not now, anyway, they prohibited it by law. lol

They never have for ANY thing, you damn snip ass liar.


Next you will be telling us the VA does not 'negotiate'.

Oh, wait, you already did that. HAW HAW HAW HAW HAW

http://www.cov.com/files/Publication...%20Pharmac.pdf



Typical liberal liar as the first 4 words explicitly explain "DoD
Final Rule Mandates..."

"which requires..."

"every manufacturer must offer... equal to or below the Federal
Ceiling Price ("FCP")."

"despite the "voluntary" label, DoD states... pricing to TRRx at or
below FCP to be mandatory.."

There's your lying ass 'negotiation'.

"WAIVER
Under the Final Rule, DoD has indicated that the obligation to pay
refunds for TRRx
prescriptions filled in 2008 could be waived in whole or in part
pursuant to a negotiation of
"voluntary" agreements regarding the prospective availability of
covered drugs to TRRx at
or below FCP."

Why, you're right, there it is, right there. "Negotiation".
Gawrsh, reading really IS fundamental!

Yes, just like the word "voluntary" for mandatory price requirements
is "right there" and the supposed 'negotiation' line you quote is that
the RETROACTIVE penalty (required refund for not complying with rules
that didn't exist at the time. How so 'liberal') 'might' (could) be
'waived' if one 'voluntarily' agrees to the MANDATE.

And a mugger 'might' not shoot you if you 'voluntarily' hand over your
wallet.

As I said, Liberals love to mangle the language, a generous alternate
description to what the average person would understandably call
"lying."

OK, have it your way - government never negotiates. The republicans paid
the price in 2008 for preventing medicare from negotiating drug prices when
no such thing was ever possible - and Obama got a health care deal out of
the Pharma companies by promising the bill would not do something that was
already impossible. lol

Apparently, under your scenario, republicans are real dupes.

You're a goddamned idiot.

The American people have been duped and idiots like you help perpetuate
it.