terry wrote:
On Dec 19, 1:27 pm, "Grumpy" wrote:
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Global warming is not a joke I am very much puzzled with this cliché's

Think Green/Global Warming

I am not educated or having any degree.

However our Law makers and scientist seems to me are missing something here,
perhaps I am exaggerating is it that we are not been tolled a truth or is it
they don't know better.

In recent months it was in the news how much CO2 we are generating "and" how
much we have reduced this pollutant gasses. However at same time our
atmosphere needless to say is getting much worse. The Ice caps at Southern
and Northern Pole are melting at much higher rate. It is my opinion that
world scientists are not giving us an explanation to why is this happening.
With exception blaming it all on CO2. Perhaps they don't want to give the
people a truth, "as to why" you guess is good as mine.

In my opinion there is something ales that no one is addressing. As it is
said that we pouring CO2 into atmosphere which we are?

However did anyone ever took in consideration that we are also depleting
Oxygen out of atmosphere "Hello". It is known fact that when you add
something to the spot you are also displacing something, or some one, from
that place, location, this can not be disputed it is mother nature, like
wise by removing something, someone from particular area, place, spot,
something will take that area space, spot, regardless if it is in form of
solids or gas, effects are the same. Now just maybe, and let me say again
just maybe that it is not as much that we are putting CO2 up there but that
we are taking Oxygen out of atmosphere and that CO2 and many other chemicals
are taking it space, location.

Now I can not suggest are gave any solution to above why this is happening
are even know if World Scientist are giving us a true or correct numbers on
such?

However I would like to ask the Atmosphere Scientist and our Government?
Have any of them ever made any experimental test what kind effect does CO2
have on Ice melting point and how fast will take to melt (x) amount compare
to Microwaves generated by our current Appliances, Satellites, Broadcasting,
Cell- phones ETC. and not "accounting" for Military actions through out the
world!

Presently we are "bombarding" our earth with powerful microwaves Equivalent
to Sun rays of such proportion that we are killing ourselves. It is not that
CO2 is a culprit of Global Warming but the OXYGEN that we are depleting from
the atmosphere. Is it CO2 good for our health definitely not however there
is other things that should be taking in consideration and not focusing just
one. In my opinion we are proceeding, sorry correction we are continuing in
direction of disaster and no one is addressing these issues??????

Puzzled: A. Seput

Palisades Park, NJ

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Dear All,
As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
planet. It will also affect us;
rising sea levels, dwindling water supplies, mass deaths due to heat
waves, stoppage of the gulfstream, which
brings milder climate to north of Europe, super hurricanes, less food
due to droughts are some of the effects.
As you also know global warming is produced due to CO2 emissions
coming from burning of fossil fuels. So what
can every single person do to reduce global warming ?
1) Insulation: Do you know that you can save 50% of heating energy
(and money) by insulation ? Especially in
the times the financial crisis, you can make the insulation cheaper
and save the money when oil, natural gas and
coal prices are higher due to higher demand. What needs to be
insulated ? Firstly the Roof, since warmer air
goes up, then the windows (tripple glass or at least dual glass and
shutters for additional insulation at night,
and in summer time), then the outer walls. Also small cracks, leaks in
weatherstrips etc should be eliminated.
An infrared inspection of your house for heat losses would be the best
way to find out what else can be done.
A wintergarden will help heating your house additionally in winter
time.
2) Using rechargable batteries instead of alkaline batteries, and
charge them during less demand ours like at night
will also save a lot of energy and money.
3) Lightning; the use of Compact fluorescent lamps instead of
traditioanl light bulbs will save 80% of energy, the
use of very new LED lamps will save even more.
4) Buying local. Most of the energy is spent for transportation of
imported goods, especially food. By buying local
made food you not only save a lot of energy, but also create more jobs
at home.
5) Heating; there are several way to save energy and money by changing
the heating method; you can use the free heat
of the nature by adding a solar thermal equipment to heat the water
for taking showers and also to heat your home.
Additionally you can use a heating pump, which funtions like a reverse
fridge; it takes the heat of the outside and
transfers it to your home. You use much much less energy to do this
(electricity to pump a liquid).
6) Your car; by buying a hybrid car you save 30% of fuel, by
converting your car to CNG (compressed natural gas) you
can save a lot of CO2, since CNG has much less carbon but more
hydrogen, which will result in water (CH4 instead of
C8H18). CNG will also result in much more energy output per mass. The
conversion is not very expensive. It is totally
save, since the storage has to resist a certain pressure.
Of course there are also other smaller things you have to consider:
- Each 60 pounds increases fuel consumption by 10%.
- Aggressive driving (speeding, rapid acceleration, and hard braking)
wastes gas. It can lower your highway gas mileage
33% and city mileage 5%.
- Drive at lowest and constant rpms; 2000 rpm are enough; you can save
up to 30%. Even a Porsche can be driven at the
4th gear at 20 mph and at the 6th gear at 50 mph with 2.5 times less
fuel consumption.
- Avoid high speeds. Driving 75 mph, rather than 65 mph, could cut
your fuel economy by 15%.
- Use air conditioning only when necessary
- Keep tires properly inflated and aligned to improve your gasoline
mileage by around 3.3%.
- Replace clogged air filters to improve gas mileage by as much as 10%
and protect your engine
- Combine errands into one trip. Several short trips, each one taken
from a cold start, can use twice as much fuel as
one trip covering the same distance when the engine is warm. Do not
forget that in the first mile your car uses 8
times more fuel, in the second mile 4 times and only after the
fourth mile it becomes normal
7) Buying A++ or A+++ equipments. The extra money you pay for this
will be back in 1-2 years. It will save a lot of CO2.
8) Try to save also energy at your job; you can do it by insulation,
more efficient processes, heat recovery, more
efficient pumps/engines, low temperature processses, material
saving, water savings, optimization, automatic turning
off of unnecessary energy using processes, control if some
processes are really necessary (the change of some
processes makes other processes sometimes unnecesarry on which
nobody has thought about).
9) Solar cells for your own home; at the moment solar cells are very
cheap since there is an overproduction. These cells
can operate a fridge for example.
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On 12/18/2009 11:29 AM, .. wrote:

Dear All,
As you know global warming is endangering the future of life on the
Generally saving money saves energy saves the planet.
So why did GM kill the electric car and crush all the
EV1,s??????????????? Maybe the government is full of ****.

Interesting. Solar cells make electricity, which, via an inverter
operate fridge.

Fridge use the electricity which ends up as heat within the house
structure!.

Sounds good; except if one is in a hot climate and has to use other
electricity, generated perhaps by burning some sort of fossil fuel, to
operate air conditioning-cooling equipment!

Fortunately, here, almost 100% electricity is generated by hydro and
we don't need AC! Hmm! Seems there are some advantages to living in a
cooler climate?

BTW our ground temperature, judging from temp. of our incoming water
and basement workshop, is around 50 degrees F, summer or winter. Next
house, if ever, will be partly underground; hopefully on a hillside
looking out at the chilly but slightly warming Atlantic to the east.

PS. Been hoping that someone 'stole' one of the EV1s and has it
squirrelled away, somewhere; with improving battery technology that
would be (would have been?) a useful vehicle! While not a conspiracy
theorist that does strike one as a very suspicious sequence of events.
possibly in the long term very short sighted. Maybe someone like Jay
XXX could pull it off? And have the means to cope with any legal
ramifications until the one and only remaining vehicle was proclaimed
a 'Historical Artifact'?
Any way don't worry, other countries now ahead with near practical
electric cars!

It's funny that you mentioned stashing an EV1, I watched the documentary
about who killed the electric car and there was a segment about a museum
or collector having one and the only way they were allowed to keep it
was that it had to be disabled. That whole episode has got to be one of
the most bizarre in all of American automotive history. GM has done some
very strange things over the years and one of them was killing their
Wankel engine development, imagine what they could have done with that
power plant using modern materials and computerized engine controls.

TDD