Roger Chapman wrote:
The Medway Handyman wrote:

FWIW I don't see "Just how desperate are these people that want to
fake results? " as anything other than the use of **** to smear
the opposition with. The experiment might not be scientifically
rigorous but that is the problem with trying to dumb down the
science to make it understandable to the public at large. That
TMH chose to pick up on my counter rather than the original smear
says far more about his prejudices than it does about mine.

Dumbing down the science is the problem - because politicians can
only react to dumbing down - not being bright enough to do anything
else.

It doesn't seem to matter to TMH whether the science is dumbed down or
not. Either way he doesn't understand it.

The fact that you think the demonstration actually has *anything*
to do with the greenhouse effect shows just how little you
understand.
The fact that Dennis thinks it doesn't shows that he knows even less
about physics than I do and precious little about how to communicate
using the English Language either. The experiment would be a fake
only if CO2 wasn't a greenhouse gas or the greenhouse effect didn't
exist at all. Now both these presumptions exist at significant
levels among deniers so the question arises does either Dennis or
TMH actually subscribe to either lunacy?

'Deniers' and 'Lunacy'? The facts of the matter are that the green
tree hugger pressure groups have created an industry devoted to
proving that (a) global warming actually exists and (b) that it is
caused by man made CO2 emissions.

I suspect that the real fact of this particular matter is that TMH is
a clueless idiot.

Whats your ****ing problem Mr Angry?

As I've already said, you are not necessarily right and being a tree hugger
doens't give you the moral high ground.

Neither of which have been conclusively proven & both of which
contradict plain old common sense.

Sad that TMH is totally lacking in plain old common sense. The
mainstream scientific view is very much that global warming is
happening and that man made CO2 is playing a part.

The mainstream evidence? Oh, is that like the conclusive evidence that the
hole in the ozone level was going to kill us all?

The mainstream evidence in the 40 articles published by the BBC? (Thanks
Matty F).

Your incredible arrogance in calling them 'presumptions' is just
that & doesn't give you the moral high ground or make you right.

I was being generous. Saying that CO2 isn't a greenhouse gas or the
greenhouse effect doesn't exist are bare faced lies. Neither claim
has any basis in fact.

Sorry to say not eveyone agrees with green bollox. You appear to have
swallowed it whole.

SNIP DRIVEL

'Green' has two meanings; Environmentally aware or extremely
gullible.

Only two? Aren't you forgetting something vitally important?

No, only one meaning in your case - extremely gullible.


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Dave - The Medway Handyman
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