A progressive economic collapse marked by an increasing inability
to provide essential governmental services such as the courts and
public safety services [police, fire] and the maintenance of
essential pubic infrastructure such as bridges, roads and canals,
seems far more likely than any sort of rebellion. Indeed, such a
progressive slow motion collapse appears to be in progress in a
number of states and large metro areas.

Even if a violent revolt should occur, the odds are very high it
will be hijacked, if not by the people that caused it, then by
people equally opportunistic, sociopathic, megalomaniacal and
doctrinaire.

In all of recorded history only one revolution, or more exactly
colonial revolt, resulted in significant positive change for the
majority of people and this was the American Revolution. Even
then a very bloody civil war occurred within 73 years of the
establishment of the Republic. [1788-1861].


Unka' George [George McDuffee]


The idea that there will be a revolution or even some kind of widespread
violence directed mainly against liberals is a stupid one and is only a
fantasy of nutcases on the far right. What's likely to happen is that
some reforms are going to be implemented by the Democrats to try to
prevent what happened on the republican's watch. The wisest thing to do
is to not ever let republicans get into a majority like they had under
Bush. Without the republicans in position to wreck things we have a
chance of making some improvements. We all know that the country has
been on the wrong track and we need to make some changes. Obama is
trying to do that, but as always he's opposed by entrenched special
interests both financial and business who want to do things their way.
They got what they wanted under Bush and they want to have that freedom
again. As long as Democrats are in power the corporations will see their
power curtailed. The question is how much and for how long. A lot of
George's ideas I agree with. But the main thing is the power of the
corporations to dominate the politics of the country needs to be cut
down. If that can be done we can make some progress. If they retain the
power they have now they will keep things exactly as they are and we all
lose...and they win. So it boils down to a battle between the people and
the corporations. They have had the whip hand. If that continues nothing
changes.

Hawke