T i m wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:58:53 -0000, "Clive George"
wrote:

"T i m" wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:58:34 -0000, "Clot"
wrote:


As a person that got caught speeding in exactly the same
situation, I have a
great deal of sympathy with your mate. In my instance, I had been
diligently
keeping to a 40 mph limit (despite a queue of cars up my tail) and
was slowing down as I came into the 30mph zone. They had just been
moved (which
I had forgotten). Low and behold there was a camera van parked
just within the 30mph zone. I swear my rear bumper was still in
the 40mph when they got
me!

So you were (effectively) fined for a lapse of memory, not
concentration or attention or because you were driving familar
ground but not driving dangerously?

"Sorry, I forgot the road had a corner here"

You aren't actually driving the road by memory, you are prioritising
the important stuff, like what that kid on a bike is about to do not
if the number on a stick is the same as it was yesterday.

Lapse of memory is no excuse at all. There are big circles with
numbers in them, with red borders. If you're driving with any degree
of attention whatsoever, you'll notice them.

Have you never been though a set of lights and suddenly had the
thought that you didn't consciously 'notice' the state of the lights
(but a glance in the mirror suggests they must have been green)?

If you claim it's a lapse of memory which caused you to not see a
speeed limit, then that's good grounds for a charge of driving
without due care and attention.

Possibly (by your rules) but not relevant in the real (driving safety)
world.

Speed limits and then cameras are primarily there to manage trap
those who can't make decisions on their own (and in that process also
trap those spending more time actually driving attentively and not
staring at their speedo or circles on sticks). I'm not saying most of
us can't do both of course but speed and safe driving can be two
different things.

Agreed.