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Default Asking HeyBub Again - Please define "success" .. .

and which "Bush's war" that you meant in your statement
"As long as it was Bush's war, success still was possible."

And please quantify what would be required to make it
"possible" - especially given the current economic conditions
and the international relationships that need some mending
as a result of the previous administrations policies during
their 8 years in power.

"Possible" is a wide open term. Theoretically, ANYTHING is
POSSIBLE. Perhaps providing some quantitative, objective
probabilities for what I believe is the method of achieving
the success you believe was possible. Please be as
specific as possible and include time lines, cost in dollars
and in lives - ours and "theirs" - and troop levels and
deployment. Might want to start with a clear statement
of the objectives and then perhaps the strategies for
attaining them. Oh - and if you have any historical examples
of the successful use of these strategies that would
be nice to include.

We live in a world more like chess than checkers. Most
of the rest of the world understands that, but some of
us are certain that all we need is a checkers master
as president - despite the fact that we just tried that
- and we've already lost two rooks and a bishop, along
with most of our pawns. There ain't no King ME! in the
game in which we are involved - heavily involved.

Think four or five steps ahead and remember - the
goal is to win - in the long run. And winning doesn't
mean I WON - and - YOU LOST! - the keystone of thinking
in terms of a Zero Sum Game.

The other thing is to remember that revenge can
take a while to attain. It took Mossad a LONG time
to find and kill the 1972 Munich Olympics Terrorists.
Didn't stop terrorism - but they did kill them all
- that were still alive to kill.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wrath_of_God

Wonder where we'd be today if Reagan hadn't Cut
and Run in Beirut after the bombing of the marine
barracks back in 1983