On Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:57:10 -0400, "Oppie"
wrote:

"Capt. Cave Man" wrote in message
.. .

Humans kill and eat the meat of their kills.

The act is either ALWAYS humane, or it has always not been so. There
are no distinctions just because someone else uses a different manner of
death. Death is death. Us merely killing them not humane? That is the
argument of some. I happen to like steak, and other cuts of meat from
various critters large and small.
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I was referring not only to the slaughter but the way that animals are kept
on these large farms. I'd rather have 'free range' meat that is a bit
tougher and know that the animal was able to have some quality of life.
Oppie

Ah... I see. Stables, barns, pens... those things are "inhumane"?

OK. I think it does mean that it will be more fatty than a free range
animal, but Kobe Beef tastes the best specifically because it was kept
from doing too much work and we all learned what part of the steak gives
it that added flavor. Now, I am hungry for cow hunks!

That would point toward certain animals having better raising methods
based on taste as opposed to "poor cow didn't get to roam".

I do not feel 'better' because I ate some gamey meat that I knew didn't
get fenced in.

I mainly want cleanliness and no waste. I hate waste.

Just like cash was required to make our civil societies be able to trade
at a distance and is responsible for making the world the great place it
is today...

Good livestock and meat processing is needed to keep societies disease
free, and able to have meat at a reasonable price. (although #2 seems to
have gone right out the window the way they are gouging right now)

We optimize processes to make it better or easier or cheaper for the
masses to have a given demand item, and we keep things clean if and where
that is needed.

When comes to our carnivorous side, we have done a pretty good job of
optimizing and keeping clean raising and slaughtering processes, and I do
not think there are all that many 'atrocities' if any, as far as the
animals themselves go.

When you think about the raw numbers processed, you have step back and
look again. We are not doing too badly in society on the whole,
considering the raw number these days, compared to say the medieval
times, etc. It was pretty nasty back then, and NOBODY cared what the
'poor animal' felt, ever.