On Sep 16, 10:05�pm, wrote:
On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:26:39 -0500, bud--
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bud-- wrote:
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:30:44 -0500, bud--
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bob haller wrote:
On Sep 14, 10:25?am, bud-- wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Sep 14, 1:17 am, bud-- wrote:
bob haller wrote:
On Sep 13, 12:04 am, David Nebenzahl
I think you meant to type "GFCI", no? I don't think my client
wants to
pay for them fancy newfangled GRCI breakers ...
Yeah why bother installing something that saves lives, bet they
want
to save bucks on their new vehicle by deleting safety belts? and
why
not remove and sell off the air bags too.
Maybe if you learned to read you could figure out what John and
Dave said.
if the solder joint detoriates for whatever reason it can
overheat and
since its not in a box cause a fire..
Another item you have been challenged on in the past. In years of
doing
service work I never saw a solder joint that "deteriorated". I saw 2
that failed that were "cold joints" when they were made. One was
K&T.
Anecdotal evidence (clare's younger brother) proves the real
hazard is
Romex. I am confident you will now demand removal of all the
hazardous
Romex wiring out there.
It is certainly as strong as your anecdotal evidence.
Or has an insurance company come up with actual casualty data?
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bud--
K&T typically has one outlet per room, necessitating lots of
extension
cords. beyond the unsafe stuff the OP admitted on post one and ii
pasted, do you still think K&T is safe and effective?
The number of outlets in a room has nothing to do with whether K&T is
safe. My house, originally wired with rigid pipe, had one or two
outlets
per room when it was built.

The anecdotal evidence in this thread (clare) clearly indicates
Romex is
unsafe.

nothing lasts forever despite how much you protest
Still missing - the insurance casualty data that shows K&T is
unsafe. An
insurance company did not present any such data in one of the links
that
was posted.

The only links that have been posted do not support your crusade
against
K&T.

I believe the electricians in this newsgroup do not agree with you..

all those required NEC safety codes are totally unnecessary,
The NEC still has a section on K&T. Among the limited applications is
reconnecting in a rewire. Why is it still there?

and state
farm is out to lunch refusing to insure homes with K&T/
In Minnesota, State Farm put a surcharge on houses that did not have
the service replaced in some time period (don't remember what it
was). They were reversed by the state insurance regulator. I remember
there was no insurance casualty data that supported the surcharge.

In one of the links provided, an insurance company that was
challenged "provided no justification for its position".

As I have said, K&T is probably the latest redlining technique.

those defending K&T are just attempting to defend their refusal to
upgrade their homes.......
The house I live in has never had K&T.

The links provided do not support your fetish.

I don't remember anyone else who did either. Why don't you get any
support???

Still no insurance casualty information that shows K&T is a problem.

�It's not casualties, it's property loss they are woried about.