On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:05:10 -0500, Jack Stein
wrote:

DGDevin wrote:
Jack Stein wrote:
"Rampaging socialism" is easy to
recognize, no need to convince anyone with half a brain... it is what
it is...

Since these are the same people who are convinced the govt. wants to set up
death panels to decide when everyone will be allowed to die,

Wonder who you think will be making those decisions? My wife recently
got bleach in her eyes, and I rushed her to the emergency room, where
they treated her immediately, before any forms were filled out. (She was
in treatment a full hour before the forms were filled out... Fat chance
that would ever happen in a government bureaucracy. This was late at
night, so the ophthalmologist wasn't in, but they called him and
explained the situation. He saw her the next day. After examining her
he said she needed to see a eye surgeon the specializes in retina
surgery. He recommended one at a local hospital, called her and sent us
directly to she her. After an exam turned out wife managed to burn off
90+ percent of her retina, and luckily, a little was left so it might
regenerate itself, otherwise she would be blind in one eye. Also,
turned out there was an experimental treatment that involved human
tissue transplant that would greatly enhance the chance of success,
however it was new and insurance didn't cover it. She said she has had
success convincing the insurance companies to cover the treatment, but
there was no guarantee. The next day she called and said she talked to
the insurance company and got approval... Today, my wife can see
perfectly. Now, I can assure you this doctor would not have gotten TO
the "government panel" to have this approved. She might have spent
several months trying to get ANY low level asswipe to even ANSWER the
phone, and the denial would be immediate, and probably very
condescending. To get it to the government panel for approval would
assuredly take months and probably a legal suit before anyone would
bother looking at it. By then, the wife would be blind as a bat.

This would be no different if you 80 year old mom needed a hip
replacement or cancer therapy, or any other type of procedure the
government felt was not cost effective or worth the expenditure. You
can live in denial all you want, won't change a thing.

and give away
free health care to illegal aliens (the clear language of the bill
notwithstanding)

What is clear in the bill is that illegal aliens will indeed get free
medical care, just like they do now. A number of attempts to make it
clear in the bill were clearly denied by the dems... Obama knows this,
and was clearly lying about it.

and for that matter that President Obama's birth
certificate is a forgery, I'm not too concerned with what they believe.

I doubt they are concerned much with what you believe either...

Anyone who shows up at a town hall meeting to screech that they don't want
the govt. getting involved with their Medicare is frankly too dumb to be
taken seriously.

Right, bunch of dumb asses. 80-85% of the country is happy with their
health care as it is, and the geniuses, like you want the government to
run their health care, despite the fact ****ing government can't chew
gum and walk at the same time...

It saddens me that the Republican Party has been reduced
to appealing to the fears of ill-informed yahoos, but that's what it has
come to.

Well, the Republicans don't have too much of a problem with big
government controlling everyones lives either. Besides, pretty ****ing
dumb to want to pass a bill that no one bothered to even read, and those
that tried have no ****ing clue what it actually says, other than
gobbledygook!

The dumb ones are those like you that think this is a
Democrat/Republican issue. It is an American/Amerikan issue. A
Socialist/Capitalist issue. An Individual control/Government control
issue.

--
Jack
Got Change: Individual control ==== Government control!
http://jbstein.com


Jack, sorry to hear about your wife. She is very lucky to have a
responsive emergency room. They are not all alike.

It is very sad folks are turning this into a party or race thing. The
more Obama pushes health care, the more people dislike it. Go Obama!