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otforme says...
Doug Winterburn writes:

we pack up and leave now, I see 9/11 as only a warm up, and the mid east
situation going even further out of control (if that is possible). The
argument that mid east Muslim nations are incapable of some form of
democratic government displays no confidence in democracy itself, let
alone the sterotypeing of all the people of those nations.

Democracy needs no confidence. It does need a fertile breeding ground,
something that has not ever existed in most areas of the Middle East. Possibly
Israel, but elsewhere, forget it. If that's stereotyping, then let's
stereotype. These people are essentially living in the Middle Ages still,
except for a few mod cons. Their concepts of freedom differ from ours--for the
most part, they want to be free to impose their beliefs on everyone else. All
the rest of our freedoms don't take a backseat, really: the don't even get in
the vehicle.

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Somehow, I don't see any logic. Go into a ****ant country where the biggest
threat was the mouth wind created by the dictator, and leave more dangerous
areas alone. Or, maybe, I do see the logic. It looked fast and easy.

But Charles, we were already there since the dictator of that country
invaded a neighboring country. We had been enforcing the no-fly zones
ever since the first gulf action; that situation had to be resolved at
some point -- simply abandoning the policy was a sure way of further
destabilizing that region. The fact the dictator of Iraq wasn't
invading neigboring countries was because his freedom to do so had been
blocked by the continued enforcement of the no-fly zones. Remember also
that while there have yet been no findings of WMD's, there is
significant evidence that he intended to pursue development once the
sanctions were lifted. Iran's pursuit of nuclear weapons is of
significant concern as well -- I'm pretty sure that situation is not
being ignored -- a radical muslim funamentalist nation with the bomb is
not something to be taken lightly.

Charlie Self
"I hope our wisdom will grow with our power, and teach us, that the less we use
our power the greater it will be." Thomas Jefferson