flipper wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 16:21:57 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

flipper wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:13:43 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

flipper wrote:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 14:13:33 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

flipper wrote:
On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 10:06:39 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
Fascism at its finest...

Repeat After Me: There Are No Death Panels in Socialized
Heathcare...

http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/291725.php

==quote==
In a letter to The Daily Telegraph, a group of experts who
care for the terminally ill claim that some patients are being
wrongly judged as close to death.
Under NHS guidance introduced across England to help doctors
and medical staff deal with dying patients, they can then
have fluid and drugs withdrawn and many are put on continuous
sedation until they pass away.

"Doctors and medical staff...can."

So, where are the governmental death panels?

The NHS.

Made-up crap.

There the ones who decide what does, or does not, get provided.

Funny, the article says otherwise. lol

No it doesn't

A pathetic lie.


and even if it did 'the article' doesn't write law in
England.

HAW HAW HAW HAW You're an idiot.

Being called an idiot by an idiot is no insult.

And 'the article' still doesn't write law in England.

Perhaps the dumbest retort you've come up with yet. lol



But this approach can also mask the signs that their condition
is improving, the experts warn.

As a result the scheme is causing a "national crisis" in
patient care, the letter states. It has been signed
palliative care experts including Professor Peter Millard,
Emeritus Professor of Geriatrics, University of London, Dr
Peter Hargreaves, a consultant in Palliative Medicine at St
Luke's cancer centre in Guildford, and four others.

"Forecasting death is an inexact science," they say. Patients
are being diagnosed as being close to death "without regard to
the fact that the diagnosis could be wrong.

"As a result a national wave of discontent is building up, as
family and friends witness the denial of fluids and food to
patients."

The warning comes just a week after a report by the Patients
Association estimated that up to one million patients had
received poor or cruel care on the NHS.

We certainly know the same and worse is true of the US health
care system. 45 million are uninsured, for starts.


A falsehood, for starters, as hospitals are required to provide
services regardless of ability to pay.

That's not insurance. 45 million uninsured, when you get
something let me know.

Insurance is not healthcare and the topic was "poor or cruel care
on the NHS," not 'insurance'.


No, redefining sad sack, I made a comment about the US health
system and you took that up.

I don't give a flying fig what you 'call it' the article and topic
was about "poor or cruel care" and insurance is not "healthcare."

Then don't respond when I talk about insurance, redefining sad sack.

I'll respond any way I please and it pleases me to be on topic.

That you're too brain dead to tell the difference between 'care' and
'insurance' is your problem, not mine.

More pathetic redefinition crap. lol





We certainly know the same and worse is true of the US health
care system. 45 million are uninsured, for starts.


A falsehood, for starters, as hospitals are required to provide
services regardless of ability to pay.


In fact, where George Bush had a chance to make law, they can shut
your ass right off while your relatives watch in horror.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0322-03.htm

"As Wasserman Schultz said on the House floor, the Texas law lays
out procedures for physicians to follow when they think a patient's
condition is hopeless, even if family members disagree. Doctors can
make a case to their hospital's ethics committee. If the ethics
committee agrees, life support can be removed. "

Rightie hero George W. Bush, death panels, 2005. Who'da thunk.
=)


In the first place we aren't talking about Texas law,

We are now. Try to keep up.

No, "we" are not.


The article specified that doctors made the decisions in Britain,
you began lying about it outright.

Under direction of the NHS.

Nope. Nonbinding guidance. Which makes you a liar. lol