On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 15:34:40 -0500, Don Foreman
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 03:44:05 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:



What..you are suggesting that the .32 is rather more impotent than the
.380? And yet Ian had James potting people right and left with it in a
number of the first novels!!!

Blasphemy!!!


Gunner

.32 Auto (7.65mm Browning) actually has less pop than .22LR rimfire.
Federal Hydrashok 65 grain bullet leaves the muzzle at 925 fps with
energy of 124 ft-lb. (.22LR rimfire with 38 gn HP bullet leaves at
1260 fps with 134 ft-lb of energy)

.380ACP 90 gn Hydrashok 1000 fps, 200 ft-lb.
.38 Spl 129 gn Hydrashok 950 fps 259 ft-lb
.41 AE 210 gn XTP 797 fps 296 ft-lb *
9mmp 105 gn EFMJ, 1230 fps, 353 ft-lb
.40S&W 135 gn Hydrashok, 1200 fps 432 ft-lb
.45ACP 165 gn EFMJ, 1140 fps, 476 ft-lb


Source: Federal 2007 Ammunition & Ballistics Catalog except * is from
Hodgdon loading data.

These are representative "personal defense" rounds. Hotter +P
ammunition is available.


Indeed. Yet James Bond Carried it! So it Had to be Good Stuff!

Right?

G
Notice the difference between .380...and even the .40? Less than half
the Ommph. And the .45? G

Gunner

"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with
minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing
clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do---
his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him.
The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?"

NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates