On Thu, 3 Sep 2009 06:05:40 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
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On Sep 2, 11:02Â*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
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On Sep 2, 10:33 am, "SteveB" wrote:





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On Sep 1, 9:42 pm, "SteveB" wrote:

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My sister-in-law has a tri-plex that has a three car garage with three
single garage doors. However there are no dividing walls to separate
the
garage into separate garages. I need to put up a wall so one of the
garages is only accessible to the renter.

It's about 24' long x 12' wide.

I don't need anything fancy or to cover it with sheet rock.

I've thought of many different ways to do it, but all seem like
they're
too complex and expensive.

Do it right or don't mess with it. That doesn't mean that it's
expensive.
You will need about 12 studs, which are cheap. About eight sheets of
rock.
Some nails, a box of mud. By my calculator, I'd say less than $75 to
have
it right. And that's with you doing the work. It ain't rocket surgery to
put the top and bottom plate on square and plumb, and if you can read a
tape, you can figure out 2' centers on the rock. You CAN rock only one
side, but my experience is that if you do, it is easier to bust and poke
holes in. Mud it in, and even if you really do a lousy job, just sand
down
the excess. Some miscolored paint from HD for cheap, and you got a new
wall. I'd case an interior door in it, too.

But that's just me.

Do it right.

Steve

"You will need about 12 studs"

How do you figure? For a 24 foot wall, you'd need 18 eight footers,
unless you're going without a top and bottom plate.

You'd also need a method to attach it to the floor, and hopefully
there's a contact point directly above it also.

BTW...I'd probably make the bottom plate with treated lumber.

reply: Twenty four divided by two is twelve if you put them on two foot
centers. The guy said he wanted to cheap out. This was an estimation.
Quit splitting hairs.

BTW, you weren't specific about treated lumber. What kind? Redwood is
typically used, and it is not treated. (Last comments to show how
ridiculous yours were about splitting hairs.)

If the OP does not know how to do Tapcons or a Hilti guns, and can't find
rafters in a garage, I suggest he NOT do the work, and hire it out.

And by the way, Mr. Sparky Know-it-all, double plates would be called for
on
the toe and crown plates so there's something to nail the sheetrock to.

But you knew that already, right?

And again, all this is with the disclaimer that it is an estimate, and
YMMV,
in case you didn't read that the first time, which you obviously didn't.

Steve

Steve

Twenty four divided by two is twelve if you put them on two foot
centers. Â*The guy said he wanted to cheap out. Â*This was an
estimation. Â*Quit splitting hairs.

I don't have enough hair to split.

24/12 sure is 12, there was no issue there. But 24/12 just gives you
studs with no plates - not a very good estimation IMHO. Well, maybe
you're right. Once you attached the drywall to the studs, you could
just stand it up in place. Maybe prop it up with some boxes.

And by the way, Mr. Sparky Know-it-all, double plates would be
called for on the toe and crown plates so there's something to nail
the sheetrock to.

Sparky AND Know-it-all? I'm honored!

How do you go from saying "The guy said he wanted to cheap out" to
doubling up on the plates? What does that do to your 12 stud estimate?
Double it?

Â*BTW, you weren't specific about treated lumber. What kind?

Obviously the OP's choice.

BTW the comments about attaching it to floor and ceiling and using
treated lumber had zero-zilch-nada to do with how many 2x4's were
needed or even with anything you said in your post. Not quite sure why
you jumped all over those comments. I guess you just wanted to split
hairs.

reply: Â*did you get the part where I said it would cost about $75 to do the
plate/stud/sheetrock idea?

No?

sigh .........................

The guy is obviously an idiot, or he'd have it up already. Â*Now, he's
probably going to put up used snow fence or used chain link.

Whatever.

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sigh .........................

Ah, a cleansing breath. Feel better?

I guess the only thing I can say is that I'm glad you're not
estimating my jobs. At a minimum, your 2 x 4 estimate was off by 50%,
at worst (with double plates) off by 100%.

I'll think I'll price out my own materials. Thanks for stopping by.
If he wants to do it "cheap" lots of places give away used pallets.
Bolt 'em together and you have a framed wall at no chatge. Then buy
cheap wall-board, aspenite sheathing, or whatever you can get your
hands on.

Not pretty - but cheap and effective.