I'm sorry. Was I drunk or absent the day you were put in charge?

This isn't a private club. I know you think it's just a bunch of "good ol'
boys" talking over whatever they want, but it is a worldwide pubic forum for
(read the title): metalworking.

General "get along with the rest of the world" suggestions are to keep
subjects at least a little on-topic.

There's plenty of forums where you'll find lots of folks who want to talk
about this, and cheerfully so.

And no, I'm not new to usenet. Been using it for decades.