On Aug 28, 10:46*pm, "Mike" wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote in message
I have seen roofers install most things on a roof incorrectly at one
time or another, so the starter strip is no surprise. *What does
surprise me is that no one has mentioned starter shingle rolls. *One
roll is ~33' long and has the adhesive in the right place. *Much
faster than cutting off tabs or dealing with individual starter
shingles.
Now there's a product I haven't seen in these parts, for at least 5 years..
Not one of the 4 suppliers my boss deals with, carries it anymore.
I remember when just about everyone decided to jump on the bandwagon in the
manufacturing of this.
Did you ever use it?
Them? Yes.
Here are some of the takes from the guys at my employers. We had a meeting
way back, when they wanted the crews to try this rolled starter out.
* Extremely awkward to use, you need 2 guys to install it, when using on a
steep slope application.
Or one guy who's tied off and not afraid of heights.
* Manufacturers even recommend to cut into 18' lengths, lay out flat, at
above 50 degrees, b/4 installation. What happens if you don't have 50
degrees? Lay it out b/4 installing? This is almost like watching paint dry.
Like most roofing products that are temperature sensitive, you keep
them in a warmer area until you need them. Granted this is not always
possible. Then again roofing isn't always possible - sometimes it
rains or snows or the wind blows really hard.
* Watch for cracking when using in cool/cold weather.
Like a fair bit of roofing materials.
* Cost factor, you get/got 33 ft, compared to 48/51 ft of a starter strip
bundle. The 33 ft is roughly 20% greater per package to start with, and you
get approx. 30% less material.
* If attempting to install by self, using a roof hatchet hand nailing, good
luck trying to hold the roll so it doesn't fall off the roof, while you
have several nails in one hand, roof hatchet in the other hand. You need a
3 hand. I never got to give it a try with a coil nailer, that might've have
been more fun.
Or use the self-adhesive stuff.
* It's like trying to install shingles, which have been draped over the
peak. You must pull it taunt at all times, in an attempt to get the waves
out.
I, for one, never taunt my roof - not a wise thing to do when it's
hanging over your head like that.
* Some have/had a peel & stick, so you do not have to use fasteners. Cost
inefficiency out the ying yang, because they charge more.
You make it sound like the roll stuff is ridiculously priced. An
average roof would require about $40 of roll starter.
* When you get to the end of the roll, you might as well cut it off & toss
it, they wrap the rolls so tight.
I guess your options are limited in Nome with that last little
bit.
* B/4 you get your first course of shingles across the run, you have to see
where the end of the roll fell. Otherwise, you might end up with the seam
of shingle, falling on top of or near the seam of the rolled starter. Of
course you can use a hook blade to cut it, because you won't be able to cut
it from the back side with a straight knife. You can run the straight blade
across the granual surface, might as well toss the blade because now you've
dulled it.
A roofer with a hook blade - who woulda thunk it? You do seem to have
a bone to pick with the stuff to quibble about such things. I figure
anyone who is up on a roof can figure out how to offset seams -
otherwise they should be on the phone and not on the roof.
I'm sure I left other stuff out, kinda got the CRS going on.
Other than that, it probably is an ok product. *8-)
Yep. It's not a panacea, but it's another product in the roof edge
arsenal. Like I said, I was just surprised that no one had mentioned
it while discussing the starter strip options.
R