On Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:21:27 +0100, Steve Firth wrote:

Jules wrote:

I can see the point* of photoshop for graphic designers - but for mere
mortals, it just seems way too bloated, clunky and feature-rich - and
hinders progress where a simpler program might not.

Utter crap. If you mean "I'm incapable of understanding Photoshop" just
say so rather than coming out with cobblers.

I've worked with professional graphic designers who use it, and even then
they never use 100% of what it offers; for Joe Public's casual use the
situation is much worse - and unnecessary functionality only pushes up
the footprint and introduces complexity in the UI. Of course I could
learn that UI if I put the time into it that the professional users do -
but to be honest I've got much better things to be doing.

Personally PSP v7's my usual tool of choice - it handles most things I
need to do (again via Wine and VMWare), and for the rest I use gimp.

stares

No, he really did say that.

If you want "bloated and clunky" then The Gimp is a classic example.

Yes it is. It's utter ****. I hate it. But I'm not aware of anything
else that'll run natively under Linux and do half of what it does (of
course I use Inkscape for any vector work, but for editing of bitmap data
it seems as though it's gimp or nothing)

If
you want clunky and useless then PSP is a classic example.

It got horrible after v7, no argument there - but I like v7 as a
reasonably clean UI and with a reasonable set of features (but without
trying to do a whole bunch of stuff for which there are better apps
around)