On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:18:50 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Raveninghorde wrote:
On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:44:48 -0500, "Ouroboros Rex"
wrote:

Raveninghorde wrote:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 21:36:27 +0100, "ian field"
wrote:


"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
diainc...
amdx wrote:

Somewhere, someone is blaming this on Obama's healthcare
proposals.

One current affairs programme suggested that the US already spends
twice the % of GDP on healthcare as the UK, so the US could have
centralised healthcare twice as good as the NHS without any
increase in taxation - all they have to do is tip a few greedy
*******s off the gravy train.


If you can only manage twice as good for twice the money as the NHS
then shame on you.

For example from seeing my doctor to getting an angiogram took me
over a month, although I was told if I called an ambulance for
increased chest pains it would happen a lot faster. So make US
health care twice as good and you'll only have to wait 2 weeks for
an angiogram.

Mind you if I had been really concerned I would have paid for
private treatment and had it the next day. Hey you guys already
work like that.

As long as you can pay. If you can't, and aren't on a government
health plan - no angiogram, period. Unless you are already having
symptoms of a heart attack at the time, of course.


Just because the work shy put smoking, drugs, booze, bling, satellite
TV etc before their health doesn't make it the tax payers problem.

Nice irrelevancy.

Health has to be paid for. Peoples priorities, who pays and how is not
irrelevant.



The NHS is not a solution to any problems with the US system.

Made-up crap.

No, In my experience it's the NHS that is crap.



Food is more essential than health care. So following the NHS logic
there ought to be a National Food Service with a large free (paid for
out of taxes) store in every town of 100,000 or more people. All the
other stores such as Tescos or Wal Mart will have to be closed of
course because they allow the better off to have a better service than
the peasants. There will be a national institute of food excellence
which will ban many foods because they are too expensive for the
national food service. Of course Scotland would have its own National
Food Service supplying deep fried Mars bars to the poor Glaswegians.

This is what right wingers refer to as 'debating the issue'. lol


So either you don't understand the analogy or you think a National
Food Service is a good idea.

Mind you the socialists kept rationing going in the UK for years after
WW2. Control the food and control the people.