On Aug 12, 8:01*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"rangerssuck" wrote in message

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On Aug 12, 7:08 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:



"John R. Carroll" wrote in
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 18:18:39 -0400, Buerste wrote:
"John R. Carroll" wrote in message
Buerste wrote:
Republican mistakes thus justifying anything the Democrats do. But
Bush...but Bush...but Bush!!!

Why?
The Dems and Returds will have to justify their own positions. This
will happen at the polls Tom.
As for Dubya, he's gone and he's got his own lock on excellent
health-care.
The rest of us, including you, have to live with the carnage and
bellyaching
about that won't solve a thing.

Healthcare needs reform, don't trust Democrats to do it. It's
simple, cap "pain and suffering" and other litigation reform
especially malpractice and defensive medicine, standardize insurance
forms, prevent premature release from hospitals, legislate
portability and eliminate "preexisting condition problems, eliminate
"emergency room" as primary by extending Medicare/Medicaid net for
the poor.

The Democrats' need to stifle discussion and demand a timetable that
sounds like a bad used car sales pitch and I wonder why they are
exempt.

The current "healthcare" mess was caused by government intrusion in
the first place.

With a true Free Market, the health insurance companies would be
competing the way the car insurance companies are now.

That's one of the most ignorant things I've ever seen.
Car insurance is MANDATED by most States you dumb ass.
The "Libertarian" version of this would actually be fair. You'd buy
insurance if you had assets and were collectable.
Otherwise, you just wouldn't.
I like it!

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John R. Carroll

Actually that is what happens now, unless you have massive assets and self
insure. No assets? Just because it is against the law, there is no
penalty. They take away your POS vehicle license plates. It's not worth
the yearly insurance premium. When I got hit in Mississippi years ago,
they
said I was lucky. Only 30% of the vehicle had insurance. I happened to get
hit in the rear by one of those while I was stopped making a turn.

Don't know about other states, but NJ has "no fault" insurance, and we
pay a surcharge to cover us against "uninsured motorists."

Meanwhile, we ALL are paying for Gunner's "free" health care.

Actually, unless you are a California taxpayer, you are not paying for
Gunners health care. *Unless he was in a Veterans Hospital.

Medicaid is a joint federal/state program. California receives plenty
of my federal tax dollars to fund indigent care.

http://www.kff.org/statepolicy/uploa...t-a-Glance.pdf
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Meanwhile, DSH payments, which are supplemental Medicaid payments to
aid hospitals serving a disproportionate share of indigent patients,
represented about 5 percent of total spending on services. In FY 2004,
California will receive an estimated $1.03 billion in federal DSH
funds.
....
MEDI-CAL IS FINANCED BY THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
Medi-Cal is administered by the California Department of Health
Services and county human services offices and jointly financed by the
state and the federal government. California’s federal matching rate,
known as the federal medical assistance percentage (FMAP), is 50
percent, meaning for every $1 the state spends on Medi-Cal the state
receives $1 of federal matching funds.
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Gunner is costing us all. And he doesn't pay taxes.