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Default Gee what a health care? plan...

Steve W. wrote:
FINALLY someone is reading it!!

Peter Fleckstein (aka Fleckman) is reading it and has been posting on
Twitter his findings.
This is from his postings (Note: All comments are Fleckman's)


Guy has a pretty limited ability to read.




Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Govt will audit books of ALL
EMPLOYERS that self insure!!


It mandates a STUDY to verify that those who choose to self-insure are
financially solvent and able to actually meet claims of their employees.
this study reports 18 months after the start of the program.


Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that
decides what treatments and benefits you get


This is also done in every private plan, all insurance has somebody
who decides what to cover...


Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill - YOUR HEALTHCARE IS RATIONED!!!


Health care is already rationed by denying applications for insurance or
denying claims of the insured.


Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your
HC benefits for you. You have no choice!


First, you would need to choose to participate in the PUBLIC plan, then
you have three classes of public plans to choose, ranging from basic to
premium.


PG 50 Section 152 in HC bill - HC will be provided to ALL non US
citizens, illegal or otherwise


So, a tourist can be covered. Seems like a nice idea, shame to let
visitors die when they come to visit. Our guys have been covered in
Finland for free when we had a problem over there.


Pg 58HC Bill - Govt will have real-time access to individuals'
finances and a National ID Healthcard will be issued!


Misreading of the text. The insurance card will be designed to permit
instant verifiacation of whether the procedure is covered for that
person, in that place, with those doctors. No more finding out 3 weeks
after surgery that "your anesthesiologist wasn't in your plan, here's
your $15,000 Bill."


Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Govt will have direct access to your
banks' accounts for election funds transfer


Erroneous reading, First "election", not part of Bill, second, this is
in the part of the Bill relating to plan dealings with providers, this
means your doctors get paid faster, by electronic transfer, rather than
waiting for "lost" checks to be sent.


PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their
families in unions & community orgs (ACORN).


Actually, it would let major companies and unions who have taken on the
health care for retirees, to buy into the federal plan. If you hate the
federal plan, this can hardly be called a payoff. Community orgs. are
not mentioned, unless they are already providing insurance coverage for
their members.


Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Govt is creating a HC Exchange to bring private HC
plans under Govt control.


That is a bizzare reading of the actual text.


PG 84 Sec 203 HC bill - Govt mandates ALL benefit pkgs for private
HC plans in the Exchange


That is plain wrong. Read the page, note the IF's and MAY's


PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt
will ration your Healthcare!


Again with the rationing... Geez...

Actually it says that the commissioner will set standards for the
participating suppliers in the PUBLIC plan, that will make all the
premium plans offer the same stuff, so the buyers can compare apples to
apples.


PG 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Govt mandates linguistic-appropriate
services. Example: Translation for illegal aliens


Illegal aliens are the only people in the US who are not literate in
english? This also suggests that materials should be available in
Braille and signing for the deaf should be accommodated, Hmmm, seems
fair to me.



I'm bored, the twitterer is a twit at best...


Read the actual Bill, the guy has it more wrong than right.


PG 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups (i.e., ACORN &
Americorps)to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan

PG 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels for Plans. #AARP members -
your health care will be rationed.

PG 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid-eligible individuals will be
automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.

PG 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No
"judicial review" against Govt Monopoly.

PG 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The Govt will tell YOU what
you can make.

PG 145 Line 15-17 An Employer MUST automatically enroll employees into
pub opt plan. NO CHOICE

PG 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for health care for part-time
employees AND their families.

PG 149 Lines 16-24 ANY employer with a payroll of $400k and above who
does not provide pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll

PG 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll between $251k & 400k who
don't provide pub. opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll

PG 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC
according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income

PG 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from
individual taxes. (Americans will pay)

PG 195 HC Bill - Officers and employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have
access to ALL Americans' financial and personal records.

PG 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be
treated as tax" Yes, it says that.

PG 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Govt will reduce physician services for
Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected

PG 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors will all be paid the same, regardless
of what specialty you have.

PG 253 Line 10-18 Govt sets value of doctor's time, professional
judgment, etc. Literally value of humans.

PG 265 Sec 1131 Govt mandates and controls productivity for private HC
industries

PG 268 Sec 1141 Fed Govt regulates rental and purchase of power driven
wheelchairs

PG 272 SEC. 1145. Treatment of certain cancer hospitals. Cancer
patients: welcome to rationing!

PG 280 Sec 1151 The Govt will penalize hospitals for what it deems
preventable readmissions.

PG 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors who treat a patient during initial admission
that results in a readmission will be penalized by the Govt.

PG 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells doctors
what/how much they can own.

PG 317-318 lines 21-25,1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is
mandating hospitals cannot expand

PG 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT
community input required. Can you say ACORN?!!

PG 335 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Govt mandates establishment of outcome-based
measures. HC the way they want. Rationing

PG 341 Lines 3-9 Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Adv Plans,
HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan

PG 354 Sec 1177 - Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of special needs
people.! WTF. My sis has down syndrome!!

PG 379 Sec 1191 Govt creates more bureaucracy - Telehealth Advisory
Committee. Can you say HC by phone?

PG 425 Lines 4-12 Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think
Senior Citizens end of life

PG 425 Lines 17-19 Govt will instruct and consult regarding living
wills, durable powers of atty. Mandatory!

PG 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Govt provides approved list of end of
life resources, guiding you in death. Excuse me???!?!?!?

PG 427 Lines 15-24 Govt mandates program for orders for end of life.
The Govt has a say in how your life ends

PG 429 Lines 1-9 An "advance care planning consult" will be used
frequently as patient's health deteriorates

PG 429 Lines 10-12 "Advance care consultation" may include an ORDER
for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOV

PG 429 Lines 13-25 - The govt will specify which Doctors can write an
end of life order.

PG 430 Lines 11-15 The Govt will decide what level of treatment you
will have at end of life

PG 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello,
ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?

PG 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. One monthly payment
to a community-based org. Like ACORN?

PG 489 Sec 1308 The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which
means they will insert Govt into your marriage

PG 494-498 Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining,
creating, rationing those same services