On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 19:57:04 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:28:18 -0700, the infamous Jim Stewart
scrawled the following:

Jim Stewart wrote:
Ignoramus10294 wrote:
On 2009-07-09, jeff_wisnia wrote:
Short of placing it in a basement and doing a major heavy duty job of
securing it to floor and foundation walls there isn't much you can do
to keep thieves from ripping out and carting away anything small
enough for you to have installed in the first place.

Better to go with stealth, maybe like this:

http://livesafely.org/home-security/...n-a-wall-safe/

But, DON'T mount it in the bedroom. That's the room thieves know most
people keep or hide valuables in. Pick a laundry area or even the
kitchen.


Jeff, I do not keep my valuables (read cash and remainder of my
silver) in
the bedroom, personally. I keep them where they are hard to find.
But bedroom is where women try jewelry, that is why I want a safe
there.

With a good enough safe, if I attach it to the floor and the wall with
lag screws, it will probably be hard enough to remove.

Not sure about where you live, but out here
in N. California, about the only thieves
we ever get are smash-and-grab kids and tweekers.
They want to be in and out in 5 minutes, so
the most important aspect of security is stealth.

And don't underestimate the power of a barky dog.

plink yip thud [silence from then on]

Most young thieves wont be carrying a gun, a blow gun, nuke, etc etc.

They simply want your pawnables and more dope/beer/carpayment


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liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support
to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that
would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked
passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us
today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement,
reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit
the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam"

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