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Default Interesting question

Joe wrote:
Very Interesting questions.
More questions, and this time some_good_ questions.

While some have little interest in getting in the middle of the Obama
birth issue, Paul Hollrah over at FSM did so yesterday and believes the
issue can be resolved by Obama answering one simple question:

*_What passport did he use when he was shuttling between
New York , Jakarta , and Karachi ?

So how did a young man who arrived in New York in early June
1981, without the price of a hotel room in his pocket, suddenly come
up with the price of a round-the-world trip just a month later?

*And once he was on a plane, shuttling between New York , Jakarta ,
and Karachi , what passport was he offering when he passed through Customs
and Immigration?

*The American people not only deserve to have answers to these
questions, they must have answers.

It makes the debate over Obama's citizenship a rather short and
simple one.
*Q: Did he travel to Pakistan in 1981, at age 20?
A : Yes, by his own admission.

*Q: What passport did he travel under?
A: There are only three possibilities.
1) He traveled with a U.S. Passport,
2) He traveled with a British passport, or
3) He traveled with an Indonesian passport.

Q: Is it possible that Obama traveled with a U.S. Passport in 1981?
A: No. It is not possible. Pakistan was on the U.S. State Department's
"no travel" list in 1981.

Conclusion:
When Obama went to Pakistan in 1981 he was traveling either with a
British passport or an Indonesian passport.

If he were traveling with a British passport that would provide proof
that he was born in Kenya on August 4, 1961, not in Hawaii as he
claims. And if he were traveling with an Indonesian passport, that would
tend
to prove that he relinquished whatever previous citizenship he held,
British or American, prior to being adopted by his Indonesian
step-father in 1967.


No, it wouldn't. A Passport does not imply citizenship in the issuing
country. Britain often issues "Passports of Convenience" and other countries
will issue passports to descendents of their citizens through several
generations back (Israel and Ireland are two examples). Further, it is
possible to "buy" a passport of another country (actually by establishing
residence and making a substantial "investment" in the country). Costa Rica
and Belize are examples.

I have two passports: one from the U.S. and one from another country.
Actually I have a third - a fake passport from British Honduras and anyone
can get one allegedly from Rhodesia, along with supporting documents such as
a driver's license, library card, and other bits of paper.