On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 04:38:14 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
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On Jun 25, 11:17?pm, mm wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:46:55 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski"
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"mm" wrote in message
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Is home sewer pipe relining a good idea? ?As opposed to trenching and
laying in a new sewer pipe.

Does it really last 50 years like the plumbing companies that do this
claim?

The drain is supposed to have a leak and fill with water at a low
spot, and that's why the basement toilet will back up if the other two
toilets are flushed in quick succession, or if the washing machine
drains.

If there is a low spot, chances are water would just lay in there anyway.
I'm not so sure how a liner is going to solve that problem, but a new line
could.

So any low spot is bad. ?I suppose a leak in terra cotta pipe could
let water in or water out, and the water coming out could make the
ground settle more around the leak, if there were some place for it to
settle to, but could it wash enough away for the line to sag? ?

This had been a well line which worked fine until a week ago. ?So
presumably it had no low spots then.

The line was roto-rooted a couple days ago, and then again with bigger
blades, all the way out to the city sewer. ?I keep thinking a clogged
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did the line have roots?

if so before replacing try rock salt dissolved say 4 times a year/.

its cheap, and very effective if roots are in the line. it kills the
roots but leaves tree and bushes unharmed.

But if there is a clog already, it doesn't dissolve the roots that are
there, does it? You have to roto-root that first time (as he had
done) or use a long snake and then the salt thereafter, iiuc what
you're recoommending?

25 pounds of rock salt dissolved in basement wash tub in very hot
water has served me great for over 12 years.

dissolve most then go out for day so no water is run

I talked to him on the phone just now and told him what you wrote.


BTW, it turns out the plumber couldn't find the cleanout in his
basement and removed the toilet to use that, even though my friend
could find his own clean out later.

Plus, the guy said he went 100 feet, but when the county came out,
they used a second cleanout plug in the ffront yard, that had to be on
my friend's property, and went from there into the street and he said
the clog was only 7 feet from the cleanout. He crushed that and then
went another 70 feet.

My friend's yard is about 50 or 60 feet from the house to the sidewalk
and another 4 feet to the street.

Did the plubmber roto-root the clog twice as he said but it still
wasn't enough to clear it? Did he only go 40 feet and not the 100 he
said, so he didn't reach the clog?

There is no doubt the plumber is NOT a cheat, but I think he may have
learned his "trade" by figuring it out and not as an apprentice (or at
least not long enough) or at a decent trade school. If it were up to
the plumber, my friend would have some sort of backhoe in his yard
today, and a bill for mucho money.


Similarly the deck next to my house was built by guys who were proud
of what they did, but they never took off the "pressure treated"
stickers stapled to the end of each flooring 2x4, and it looks
terrible. Neither did the owner at the time or the new owner for the
last 2 years. I may be a rank amateur but when I do do things, I
learn about it until I do them right.