On Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:27:24 -0700 (PDT), harry k
wrote:

On Jun 22, 8:25*am, (Doug Miller) wrote:
In article , harry k wrote:





On Jun 22, 4:36=A0am, (Doug Miller) wrote:
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..com, harry k wrote:

Years ago I read the actual challenge. =A0Seemed to be set up so that it
would be all but impossible to find the objects even with a map. =A0It
is set up so that it is 100 percent sucess or it is total failure. =A0No
partial success allowed.

That's not true. All the dowser needs to do to claim the prize is to have a
success rate that is significantly higher than expected by chance alone.

The true skeptics should at least try it before being so adamant that
it doesnt' work.

I think you have that backwards: the proponents should show evidence that it
works, before claiming that it does.

Thanks for the admission that you haven't.

Whether I've tried it or not is beside the point. The burden of proof is on
those making the claim. So far, despite repeated attempts, *nobody* has *ever*
been able to demonstrate, under controlled conditions, that dowsing works any
better than simple guessing. If you think it does work, then all you need to
to is demonstrate it to become an instant millionaire.- Hide quoted text -

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Obviouslyh you aren't bothering to _read_ what I wrote. Note the bit
about being a 'semiskeptic'.

I guarantee you that if you try it and you are one for whom it works
it will scare the hell out of you the first time. You will also spend
a lot of time trying to figure out just how _you_ are making the rods
move. I have never been able to do it.

Harry K


If you can't make them move you are holding them too tightly. Anyone
can "witch". Just cut up a coat hanger and make your two L's. Then
go play with it. Aim it at the dogs water dish, the rods will cross.
It's elementary... if you start out with the requirement that you need
to maintain them pointing forward and parallel to each other (and you
don't hold them too tight), then the slightest movement of your hands
will cause them to swing one way or the other. The amount of hand
movement is almost imperceptible. It is VERY easy to delude yourself
that you are not doing it. I've played with them and found that IF
you are just playing around that it will SEEM like it finds water when
you KNOW where the water is. It's very eerie on one level. But it
won't actually find water when you don't know where it is. It's been
tested over and over and the "experts" always fail.