Robatoy wrote:

Or worse. And by that I mean torturing somebody so they will spit
out the support for a war which was started under false pretences.
IOW, if you don't have the reasons to wage war, torture somebody to
say something that will justify your phoney reason?
Where is the legal, moral justification for THAT reason to torture?

There is none, and coercive techniques were not undertaken with that
in mind.

...he says with certainty...

Your irony is well-taken. Coercive techniques COULD have produced the
results you complain about but I have yet to hear anyone, pro or con,
suggest that was the case.

There is one case where a goblin (forget his name, Ramsey al BoomBoom or
something) was turned over to the Egyptians, they got information
implicating Iraq in this and that, and that information was offered by the
CIA as an excuse for invasion. But WE didn't remove the fingers, the
Egyptians did.