On Sat, 16 May 2009 13:02:30 -0700 (PDT), RickH
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On May 16, 2:42Â*pm, Steve Barker wrote:
RickH wrote:
On May 16, 12:58 pm, wrote:
On Sat, 16 May 2009 10:46:38 -0700 (PDT), RickH

wrote:

No its conduit. Â*In fact new-home union electricians here insist that
all drywall BE UP and house be lockable before they pull their wire.
A properly done conduit rough-in can be wired just as easily with
drywall up. Â*But buried boxes are a huge big no-no with conduit rough
in, the worker needs clear pulls from box to box with no "hidden"
blockades. Â*Best to use normal mudding plate and blank cover. Â*But if
OP insists on no wall plate then just leave off mud plate entirely
because he will have a lot of patching to do later to slip a mud plate
on anyway then remud (or use an over sized wall plate). Â*Also the OP
will be the only one who ever knows this box exists without a wall
plate. Â*If wire is pulled before burial, then I'd use a flat steel
cover before drywalling over it.
Where are you that residential conceled wiring is done in conduit???
The only time conduit is uded in residential wiring here in Ontario is
for exposed wiring, particularly unfinished basement and garage where
wiring is exposed top possible damage, unfinished ceilings where
someone may hang things on it, or in steel studs (occaisionally)

Chicago and the majority of its suburbs require steel conduit. Â*Even
if your town does not require conduit most homeowners here insist on
it or the builders just use conduit anyway, its the norm, so few
builders (even if they could) use romex.

There's NO conduit involved in residential wiring here in the KC metro
area. Â*Probably not in the 4 state area that i know of. Â*I can't imagine
trying to wire a house in conduit. Â*What a pain and waste of time.

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People are always surprised when I tell them that electricians around
here want to be both "the first ones in and the last ones in". The
electrical rough in guy is here just after being "under roof" he does
all rough in and drops only one or two outlets for everybody else
later. Then plumbing, heating/AC, insulation, drywall. Lastly the
final electrician wires the house, sometimes even after the painters
and cabinets. Flooring is last of course.


I can't immagine wiring a "stick-built" house with conduit. Concrete,
I can see.
Even steel-stud residential would be a complete pain. Generally
plastic bushings are installed in the through-holes of the tin stud to
keep the romex from shredding..
To use conduit EVERYTHING would have to come up or down throuh sills
and plates - virtually nothing could traverse walls. Would easily
DOUBLE the amount of wire required in the average home - particularly
in 2 story or split level designs.

In commercial with tin studs virtually everything is suspended ceiling
and the conduit can be run anywhere without having to peirce walls
etc.