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westom westom is offline
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Default How to ground electric outlets over a slab?

On May 1, 12:15 pm, bud-- wrote:
For real science read the IEEE and NIST guides. Both say plug-in
suppressors are effective.


Cut and paste the same half truths. Post insults. And still no
manufacturer spec that even claims that protection. No wonder telcos
all over the world waste no money on bud's products.

Page 42 Figure 8 - a surge protector was so effective as to earth
that surge 8000 volts through the adjacent TV? bud calls that
protection! He pretends Page 42 Figure 8 does not exist. And
pretends that Martzloff does not define the same damage in his 1994
IEEE paper:
1) Quantitative measurements in the Upside-Down house clearly
show objectionable difference in reference voltages. These occur
even when or perhaps because, surge protective devices are
present at the point of connection of appliances.


bud will repost the same half truths repeatedly because sale
promoters are taught to always post the last word. bud must keep
posting. With profits so obscene, even I would do what bud does.

bud will not answer the OP's problem. Plug-in protectors don't need
earth ground to magically stop what three miles of sky could not. The
OP should start an examination of the earth ground system or upgrade
earth ground to meet and exceed post 1990 code requirements (details
posted previously). If the existing system cannot be inspected, then
best is to install a new earthing system so that all incoming
utilities make the same short (ie 'less than 10 foot') connection to
that electrode system.

bud's protectors don't need no ground. Their few hundred joules
will magically make hundreds of thousands of joules surges disappear.
Or his new claim. The protector only absorbs one or two joules.
Funny. One or two joules means protection inside every appliance
makes that surge irrelevant. Why spend so much money on a protector
when one or two joules cannot harm anything?

Earth ground is essential so that surge protectors can do what the
NIST, IEEE , telcos, US Air Force, munitions dumps, etc require - a
short connection to divert surge energy harmlessly into earth. How
curious. That is what every telco does everywhere in the world to not
have damage. Telcos don't waste money on what bud sells. After all,
telcos first demand specifications. bud cannot provide any
specifications. Where are bud's specs that claim that protection?

.. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground ... as was
true 100 years ago and is true anywhere that surge damage cannot
occur. bud claims his plug-in protectors magically stop what three
miles of sky could not. A sales promoter will say anything to close
the deal.