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J. Clarke J. Clarke is offline
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Like Bush really cared about the Constitution while taking away our
rights over the last 8 years
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Please name one right "Bush took away from us". I was no fan of W's,
but a lot of what gets blamed on him was either: a) Already set in
precedent courtesy of the insane "War On Drugs", "War On Poverty",
"War On Illiteracy", and so on (each of which gave the nosy Feds
more and more power over the individual) or b) A removal of "rights"
from foreign invaders, none of who have a legitimate claim to our
protections under civil or criminal law.


How about the suspension of Habeas Corpus


What suspension would that be, the one that the Supreme Court slapped down?

Note--Lincoln tried that one too, with the same result.

or the expansion of the
Border Patrol's powers in the "Constitution-Free Zone"? I live more
than a thousand miles from Mexico, but I am subject to arbitrary stop
and search because I live in this zone.


So how many times have you or anybody else you know actually been stopped
and searched?

We don't need to go into the
issue of torture, do we?


Go for it.

I suppose that's not a violation of human
rights.


Flying planes into buildings is a violation of human rights too you know.