On Apr 30, 5:57*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
I think Bud and Tom actually believe that sooner or later, after perhaps
17000 discussions, one of them will actually win the debate.

Bud follows me everywhere cutting and pasting the same accusations
and half truth for one simple reason. It is his job. The only people
who win will do what every reliable radio and TV station, telephone
switching center (CO), military bases, maritime nuclear hardened radio
stations, and even munitions dumps have been doing for over 100 years.

In every case, the protector does not provide protection. But a
'magic' box with that massive profit margin somehow gets promoted.
After all, will it stop and absorb what three miles of sky could not?
Of course not. That is why high reliablity factilities do not waste
money on plug-in protectors.

Nobody can *sell* earth ground. So sales brochures don't mention
it. But industry benchmark in surge protection ... even their
application notes define the only compoent always required for surge
protection: single point earth ground
http://www.polyphaser.com/technical_notes.aspx

As others have noted, earthing is essential to surge protection. As
IEEE states in standards, this is not 100% protection. Spend tens or
100 times more money for the plug-in protectors for the additional
0.5% protection? Even IEEE Standards define how effective properly
earthed protection really is:
Still, a 99.5% protection level will reduce the incidence of direct
strokes from one stroke per 30 years ... to one stroke per
6000 years ...

If you learn this, then bud's profit margins will dimish. However,
if you learn this, then you will buy protectors from far more
resonsible companies such as Square D, General Electric, Cutler-
Hammer, Leviton, Keison, Polyphaser, Intermatic, and so many others.
Buy protectors that costs about $1 per protected appliance - not the
$150 protector recommended by bud.