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Default How to ground electric outlets over a slab?

On Apr 30, 11:38*am, bud-- wrote:
The best information on surges and surge protection I have seen is at:
http://www.mikeholt.com/files/PDF/LightningGuide_FINALpublishedversio...
- "How to protect your house and its contents from lightning: IEEE guide
for surge protection of equipment connected to AC power and
communication circuits" *published by the IEEE in 2005 (the IEEE is the
major organization of electrical and electronic engineers in the US).
And also:
http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/practiceguides/surgesfnl.pdf
- "NIST recommended practice guide: Surges Happen!: how to protect the
appliances in your home" *published by the US National Institute of
Standards and Technology in 2001

bud must deny what any protector does. From page 6 of his NIST
citation:
You cannot really suppress a surge altogether, nor
"arrest" it. What these protective devices do is
neither suppress nor arrest a surge, but simply
divert it to ground, where it can do no harm.


bud is paid to promote protectors with the necessary earth ground
connection. bud must say anything to promote plug-in protectors even
though none will even claim such protection. Not one. In fact, bud's
own citation Page 42 Figure 8 shos what happens when a protector is
too close to electronics and too far from earth ground. A surge is
earthed 8000 volts destrutively through an adjacent TV.

bud will say anything, including the usual insults, to protect
massive profit margins. Even post half facts. bud even forgets the
damage created by plug-in (point of use) protectors as defined in
Martzloff's 1994 IEEE papaer:
Conclusion:
1) Quantitative measurements in the Upside-Down house clearly
show objectionable difference in reference voltages. These occur
even when or perhaps because, surge protective devices are
present at the point of connection of appliances.


Why do telcos not use any product that bud promotes? For 100 years,
the effective protectors always required a short conneciton to earth.
According to bud, surge energy magically disappears inside a plug-in
protector. IEEE papers (including those cited by bud) say otherwise.
Either surge energy gets dissipated harmlessly in earth OR it is
dissipated destrutively inside appliances. bud's Page 42 Figure 8
shows that. Martzloff says that. Even page 17 of bud's NIST paper
says again why plug-in protectors do not protect from surges that are
typically destructive:
A very important point to keep in mind is that your
surge protector will work by diverting the surges to
ground. The best surge protection in the world can
be useless if grounding is not done properly.


bud is paid to promote ineffective and obscenely overprices
protectors. Even telcos all over the world (that typically suffer 100
surges during every thunderstorm) do not use anything recommended by
bud. Telcos use 'whole house' protector and even better earthing.
Others have spend massively on plug-in protectors and still suffered
damage. We install only one 'whole house' protector so that better
earthing means nothing is damaged. When was phone service lost
everywhere in your town as they spend four days replacing their surge
damaged computer? Never happens because 'whole house' protectors are
connected as short as possible to better earthing. A protector is
only as effective as its earth ground.

So where is that spec on any bud protector that even claims
protection? bud says his plug-in protector are complete protection
systems. bud refuses to provide even one protector spec for one
simple reason. No plug-in (point of use) protector claims to protect
from the typically destuctive surge. Of course not. No earth ground
means no effective protection.

Defined is the earthing so essential is that a protection can do
what? NIST (and literally every other responsible source) says what
is necessary to make a protector effective:
your surge protector will work by diverting the surges
to ground. The best surge protection in the world can
be useless if grounding is not done properly.


How does bud's plug-in protector divert to ground? It doesn't. It
does not even claim to protect from such surges. It will somehow stop
and absorb what three miles of sky cannot? bud makes that claim. So
bud will post more insults; keep others confused. When selling a $3
power strip with some ten cent parts for $25 or $150, then even I
would sell you such devices. Profit margins are just too excessive
for anyone to be honest.

But I don't post insults selling a scam. Nobody uses bud's solution
where damage is unacceptable. Every where that even direct lightning
strikes must never cause damage, better earthing and 'whole house'
protectors are used.

What does the US Air Force demand for surge protection? In Training
manuals, all protectors must be properly earthed 'whole house'
protectors. Plug-in protectors do not provide protection from
typically destructive surges due to no earth ground. As the Air Force
says:
Install the surge protection as soon as practical where
the conductor enters the interior of the facility. Devices
commonly used for this include metal oxide varistors,
gas tube arresters, and transzorbs.


I need not post insults as bud always does everywhere. I am not
selling a scam. Every facility that must never have surge damage
significantly upgrades earthing AND installs 'whole house'
protectors. Earth is where direct lightning strikes are harmlessly
dissipated in earth. No earth ground means what to harmlessly absorb
that surge? Even surges created by falling high voltage wires on
local distribution seek earth. A protector is only as effective as
its earth ground. A device that diverts surge energy harmlessly into
earth. A solution so well proven as to always be required in every
munitions dump.

One does not even know if his earthing exists. If an earthing wire
crosses the building to connect to a water pipe, then earthing all but
does not exist. Critical to effective surge protection is a short (ie
'less than 10 foot') connection to an earth ground for every incoming
utility. A protector (ie one installed for free on everyone's phone
line) is only as effective as its earth ground. Earth is the
protection. . No insults are required to define science and expose
salesmen myths. Even bud's citations say why plug-in protectors are
ineffective. Where is one plug-in protector spec that claims
protection? No protection claims exist for an obvious reason - no
dedicated earthing connection means no effective protection. bud
cannot even provide one spec - and he works for them. Which is why
telcos everywhere in the world do not use bud's protectors.