On Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:56:52 +0100 Clumsy ******* wrote :
pedestrians have to obey red man
signals on pain of a fine and you can wait a long time.

can you get fined?

Most of the time you wouldn't be caught but most people obey
nevertheless. They had a campaign before Christmas: IIRC the fine
is A$88, about £40.

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