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Default Sump pump backflow?

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ok here is where i'm at...I unplugged the pump for awhile and when I
plugged it back in it came on immediately and did the same thing ran for a
minute and shut off. While it was running I manually pulled the float down
several times and this made the pump shut right off so the float is
working fine. So I think that the thermal protection switch is being
tripped like you said. The pump is connected and draines directly into the
main sewage line for the house through the basement wall so I cannot check
and see if it is draining outside although while it is running I can here
draining in the pipe and the water flow "sounds" fine. I think this means
that the problem causing the trip is maybe a clog in the impeller which
leaves me still with a question. How can I get to the impeller to check
and remove anything clogging it...the pump is secured at the bottom of the
crock and I cannot drain any water from it, when I try the water fills
back up as fast as I can remove it.
det1015
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Bob F wrote:

det1015 wrote:
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det1015
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Bob F wrote:

det1015 wrote:
I moved into my house durring this winter and now going
through
spring
thaw, it has also been raining for 3 days straight and now
the
sump
pump in my basement that I have not had any issues with
before is
backing up. My utility sink and washer both drain into the
sump
pump
crock so the pump runs frequently and has never backed up
before.
I
checked it out to see if the float was maybe lodged on
something
and
it seems fine. I started taking the water out and emptying
it into
a
bucket but no matter how much water I take out of the
crock the
water
doesnt get any lower. So I sat and watched to see what the
pump
was
doing. It will kick on and I can here the water draining
through a
pipe in the basement wall but it will only run for about a
minute
and
drains about 1/2" of the water then stops, when it
stops the
same
amount of water runs right back into the crock from the
drain pipe
and I'm right back where I started. I know that there
shouldnt be
any
backflow into the crock. Any ideas???
det1015


If the float switch is working right, the pump may be tripping
an
internal
protection switch. If you are using it for laundry water,
maybe some
thread or
cloth has gotten into it and is binding up the impellor.


What happens when you manually operate the switch?


The sump pump is fully under water because it is one that is
mounted
to the bottom of the crock and the crock is full. The float is not
on
a small electrical line like most that I have seen. It is
underneath
a lip on the pump and is attached by a 3-4" long thin metal
rod...when the float rises on the metal rod and reaches the lip on
the pump it kicks on. Well the float is at the top of the metal
rod
(due to the pump being fully submerged) and the pump will not stay
on
for longer than a minute at a time. I have pulled the float down
and
back up and the pump does nothing.


So, the float is way under water, and the water never drops down to the
float
level? Does the pump cycle regularly, without ever moving the float? If
so,
something else is causing the pump to turn off after a short run time,
which
takes us back to a thermal protection switch or some such thing.


Does it just keep cycling for the same short period, over and over? A
short time
on, and longer time off, with little change in water level from after
the pipe
drains back until it turns on again? Again, something binding the
impeller could
activate a thermal protection switch.


Can you disconnect the output and see if it keeps pumping then? Does it
continue
running then? Is the water flow good? Look for a plugged outlet pipe
then.


Does water come out of the outside pipe?


If you unplug the pump for ten minutes so it can cool off good, then
plug it in
again, does it start pumping right away? Does pushing the float down
quickly
stop it? Multiple times? This would suggest that the switch is good.








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