On Apr 10, 7:49*am, wrote:
On Apr 10, 8:34*am, "Bob-tx" wrote:





"HeyBub" wrote in message

om...

Twice as much.

"Every CFL light contains a small ac-dc power supply with reactive
components in it that will affect the CFL's power factor (PF) -
that is, the load presented to the ac line. The closer the PF is
to 1, the better. A load with low power factor (.85) draws more
current and is less efficient than a load with a high power factor
for the same amount of useful power. ... These power losses don't
show up directly on our electricity bill, but the utilities sure
see the effects.

"I put one of my home CFL bulbs on my Kill-O-Watt power meter
recently and measured its power factor: It was .57. This is lousy.
"

http://www.edn.com/blog/1470000147/post/450043045.html

On a head to head competitive basis, where one could buy either, who
knows which would win, or if both would survive? * Some people say
they save money, but others are not convinced, especially
considering the up front cost of the CFL. *Some say they last
longer, but it has been my experience that they have a greater
failure rate than incandescents.

At any rate, I have purchased enough incandescent bulbs to last me a
life time, and it didn't cost much more than buying one full set of
bulbs for the house. *Also, if an incandescent breaks, I don't have
a health issue with mercury.

But most important of all is that I bow my back against any
government rule that tells me how I have to live.

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A lot of this assumes the Kill-a-Watt Gizmo knows what the hell it's
doing. * I'm not so sure anymore. * I know a lot of people on here
have used them. *I borrowed one from a friend and used it to measure
my old vs new fridge last year. * *So, on a recent trip to Costco,
when I saw they had the EZ model for $26, I bought one.

The EZ model lets you enter your cost of electricity per KWH and can
then display the cost of electricity used per day, month, year,
etc. * *Upon trying to enter the cost of my electricity, I discovered
the "set" key just didn't work at all. *So, I took it back and
exchanged it. * This one, the "set" key works, but the "up" key
doesn't. * But until I take it back, I figured I'd try it out a bit.
I put it on the cat water fountain, which uses a small 2.5W plug-in
transformer. * It's been on there for 5 days and still reads 0.00$
used per year. *It also doesn't register any current or watts
either. * The transformer is small, rated at onely 2.5W. * *Just
checked it for PF and it shows 1.0

Apparently, this draws so little current it can't measure it. * But
after having 2 bad units in a row, and this thing being made in China,
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You probably have defective units, I measure power supplies of as
little as 4w with the old unit ok. [ I didnt try 2.5w]