"Nova" wrote in message
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MikeWhy wrote:

"Nova" wrote in message

It looks like "Tools For Woodworking" is selling Pax and Gramercy saws.
Both are sold sharpened. Some of the Gramercy's indicate they are a
"hand-filed and hand-set saw for the smoothest action".

http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/M...Category_Code=

The saws may not be set up the way you prefer but they are sharpened.

The quality of the steel in the saw will not change no matter how it's
sharpened.

Chisels are sold sharpened but usually unhoned. A honed chisel's edge
wouldn't fair well in shipping.


Let me know where you're buying the Pax or Gramercy for $50, let alone
for the pair. Of course you can buy them sharpened.

Who said anything about less than $50. You stated "Backsaws typically come
unsharpened." I asked to you to cite any saw that was sold unsharpened.

The OP asked in context of the contemplated $50 purchase. I'd like to live
where you live, where Gramercy is run of the mill rather than specialty,
high dollar premium items. Do you have one you want to sell?


You asked to see an example of saws sold unsharpened. This is but one:

http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com/M...egory_Code=TMQ

The saw referenced above is sharpened, "At 10" long with 20 tpi".

So you are referring to the tooth shaped things along the one edge. I own
one. I'm not guessing. The only question is what you might mean by sharp.
Out of the package, it cut wood somewhat faster than a file, but not at all
like a saw should cut.

I can think of only two problems with Japanese saws, even the cheap ones.
The first is you'll never again mistake a fancy file for a proper saw. I
spent a lot of time and money, and ruined a few saws, learning how not to
sharpen them, and never really matched a good Japanese saw. The second
problem is some are hardened to the point of being brittle. They hold their
edge well, but don't sharpen easily, and teeth chip and break if you
carelessly break through and whap the bench edge. Replacement blades, for
mine, are $20. You can have my saw set and files if you like. Sounds like
you're in need.