"John Grabowski" wrote in message
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By the way down here the Expo Design Center (Home Depot's high end
stores) are closing and everything is 50% off.

I was there today and came across a return item, two boxes of trims
for the 6" housings. Those are Halo 30WAT, and each box has 18 of
them each one was marked down to $10.00 and 50% off that. So I got
all 28 of those trims. However I did not notice that some of them
are different, turns out I ended up with 11 of 30WAT and 17 of the
30WATH. They look the same except the 30WAT (62400 60332) the upper
inside part of the cone is white, anf the 30WATH (62400 68832) the
upper inside part of the cone is silver.

I took your advice and used H7T housing for most of my down
lighting and it seems the 30WAT(H) will work, according to Halo's
website I can use 100W A19 if I wanted to but I probably will use
75W instead.

I wonder if I can tell the difference between 30WAT and 30WATH down
from below after the bulbs are inserted.

MC

That is an airtite trim. You remove the guts of the frame, leaving
the ceramic socket which clips into the end of the trim, with a
gasket, keeping it air tight. Be careful when installing them, the
spring wires that hold the trim into the frame, can be a bit tricky,
and the rim of the trim bends very easily




RBM what do you mean by removing the guts of the frame? You mean it
does not install by pushing it into the housing like the other trims?

Thanks,

MC

Correct, that trim has a hole at the narrow end, and the socket mounts
directly to it. Currently, the socket is mounted on a flat plate
inside the can. You remove the wing nut on the side of the can that
holds that plate, pull it down, out of the can, and pinch the two
spring steel retainers on the socket to remove it from the plate.
Discard the plate and mount the socket to the trim.




Oh I see, and by doing that, I lose the adjustable aspect of the H7T
socket. I didn't think of that. Actually now that I look closer at it,
I think it would be very difficult to mount this trim to the housing
could be very tricky. May be I should have gotten the 410W instead
even if this one is heavily discounted.


*If you want to save some money and like the 410 trim, Halo has a
substitute made for contractors. They cost around 2 bucks for the H7
size. However they are only available at electrical supply companies.
Part #Halo ERT709WHT. For the H99 you can try the ERT413WHT

John:

I did not know that there is a contractor version of these. Is there a
substantial difference between the contractor version and consumer
version?

I just can't believe how expensive these trims are. Is there a similar
thing for Juno? I am looking for trim 435B-WH that does not cost part of
my legs LOL.


*I am not familiar with Juno and don't have one of their catalogs. If the
dimensions are the same you could probably get a Halo trim to work.

The contractor trims recessed baffle are made of metal whereas the
consumer are made of plastic. They are not exactly identical, but once
they are in the ceiling Halo's own mother would not be able to tell the
difference. :-)

I went to an Expo store near me today just see what they had. Everything
was 40-60% off. The parking lot was full. Customers were buying
overpriced light fixtures right off the ceiling. Even with the discount
some things still seemed expensive. I saw some nice replacement cushions
for my outdoor set. The sale price for a regular chair cushion was around
$75.00. The chaise cushions were $89.00 originally $149.00. I don't
think my chairs with cushions cost that much new.
Given a choice between metal baffle or plastic baffle I prefer metal. If
it's cheaper that's even better. I was doing some search on the net and a
few websites said "Cooper Lighting P31WW" is a replacement for Halo 410W?
Are they interchangeable? Seems tje P31WW is also priced relatively lower.

Thanks,

MC