Pat wrote:
On Feb 27, 12:53 pm, Joe wrote:
On Feb 27, 9:47 am, ransley wrote:

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Its a laptop and they get stolen easily. Its nice to know its a secure
computer and nobody can nose around in easily. Here when we go to the
gas station you dont leave keys in the car or leave it running and you
lock your home. I just like the idea its tamper resistant. Laptops are
a theives 1st choise anywhere.
That's sad.
Here in small town midstate Illinois we commonly see pickup trucks in
the winter parked in front of the 'Fuzzy Duck' with engines running.
Not very energy thrifty, but beats having to wait for seat heaters to
work. Folks that move here from the big cities are said to be the only
ones bothering to lock their doors. But we do have effective
neighborhood watches (OK, nosey neighbors) and an unusually alert and
modern police force. Some call it peaceful. some boring. And we do
have a lot of licensed gun owners. Go figure.

Joe

I live with in a rural area and I'm with Joe on this one. I never
take the keys out of the switch. If I did, I'd probably lose them. I
thought about one of those self-start thingies for the car -- the kind
where you put the fob on the keychain. I couldn't figure out why I'd
want one. Why would I want to walk to my car to get the key fob to
push to start the car when I'm standing right next to the car anyway
because I had to walk out there to get the fob. It makes no sense.

As for the house, gee I hope no one locks the door. I have no idea
where the key is -- even if I have a key. Besides, what good is a
locked door when someone could just crawl in a window?

Chuckle. My new-to-me minivan that I bought last summer (an 05 to
replace the 95 that I didn't want to replace the transmission a 3rd time
on), has 2, count 'em, 2, outside keyholes. Drivers door and tailgate.
The 01 version of the same van had a keyhole on all 5 doors, like God
and Walter Chrysler intended. (As did my 95, although it had one less
door.) Key that came with the 05 has buttons on it- not a seperate fob
(that I could probably deal with), but a key head the size of a serving
spoon, and a tiny little loop to run the keyring through, such that if
you use the fob key and other keys together, they will not fit in a
pants pocket. Total fubar engineering. And because these are the
'secure' chip keys, it cost me $120 to get 2 halfway-normal size keys
without the buttons. Still too fat with the padded heads, but tolerable.
Fob key went in the safe as a backup. But now, every time I park, I have
to force an unlock of the electric locks, so I can use the other 3 front
doors. Or if I forget and approach car from curb side, I have to tell
passengers to wait while I go around and unlock, since there is no damn
keyhole on that door.

Never understood the appeal of fobs- you are standing at the door
anyway. Why not just use the key? If you can free up a hand to dig out
the keyring, you can manage to turn a key in a lock.

--
aem the luddite sends....