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David Nebenzahl

On 1/16/2009 2:40 PM spake thus:

On Jan 16, 5:02 pm, David Nebenzahl wrote:
On 1/16/2009 11:45 AM spake thus:

Wrong.

Israel only "withdrew" from Gaza on paper. Since the "withdrawal", they
have maintained what most international observers, including the UN,
term a "siege". They control almost everything that goes in or out of
Gaza by land or sea (excluding what little has been transported through
tunnels to Egypt).

Apparently they don't control everything coming into or out, or Hamas
wouldn't have those rockets they've been firing at Israel for the last
year, would they?

Read what I wrote up there in parentheses.

However, in the last year, Hamas
has moderated its stance towards Israel in several significant ways, and
has shown a willingness to negotiate that the Israelis have responded to
with "go **** yourselves".

As well they should, with rockets being indiscriminantly launched from
Gaza into Israel. Firing rockets for months at Israel is catagorized
as moderation? I guess with Hamas that IS moderation.

You make it sound as if Hamas has been launching rockets into Israel
(which they have) with absolutely no provocation, while the Israelis
have simply been going about their business, not bothering the
Palestinians at all.

Absolute bull****. But as I said before, you can be forgiven for
believing this because of the thorough job Israeli propagandists (and
their U.S. stenographers) have done.

In fact, even during the "cease fire", Israel continued its program of
"targeted assassinations" (read: killing anyone anywhere in the Occupied
Territories for any reason whatsoever), embargoing (read: holding the
entire civilian population hostage), house demolitions, etc., etc.

And let's look at the proportion here, which does matter (i.e., one
doesn't use a nuclear bomb to kill a fly). How many people have been
killed by Hamas' rockets? Over the last 8 years, about 20 people. How
many Palestinians has Israel killed? Over the same period, *thousands*
(and certainly not all militants or Hamas fighters as the IDF claims).

The Palestinians are the Warsaw Ghetto fighters to Israel's storm troopers.

Sounds like Neville Chamberlain with Hitler or Jimmy Carter's approach
to the USSR. And we know where it got them. Notice you avoided my
question if you would have negotiated with Hitler, Bin Laden, Idi
Amin, Pol Pot?

I don't take bait.

So tell us: have you stopped beating your wife yet?

--
In order to embark on a new course, the only one that will
solve the problem: negotiations and peace with the Palestinians,
the Lebanese, the Syrians. And: with Hamas and Hizbullah.

Because it's only with enemies that one makes peace.

- Uri Avnery, Israeli writer and peace activist with Gush Shalom.
(http://counterpunch.org/avnery08032006.html)